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Old 10-11-2007, 05:20 PM   #21 (permalink)
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If you fast forwarded his scenes last season then you pretty much didn't watch anything seeing he was one of the main characters and a central figure of the story.

Narratively Hiro is a great tool. The development of the five years in the future story line would be an ideal, yet unrealistic season two. Actually according to Tim Kring, the creater of Heroes, the second season will focus almost entirely on the past and future generation of Heroes.
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Old 10-11-2007, 07:02 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I watched his scenes when he was with the other people on the show. When he and his buddy are in scenes or scenes like he's had this season I just skip through them.
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:25 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Ando. Still hasn't sinked why you'd want to skip his scenes. Peter apart he's the glue of the series. There is no Heroes without Hiro, like there wouldn't be any 24 without Jack, or House M.D without Gregory.

Please tell me you actually like the Nikki/DL/Mika storyline. If you do, then you're just missing it, considering those characters apart from the Linderman connection don't really add anything to the plot.

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Old 10-12-2007, 01:33 AM   #24 (permalink)
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according to an interview that was done in a sci fi mag, ( i wish i could remember the name of it), kring said that all the characters play a major part in the show. remember save the cheerleader save the world? well she still has a big part to play. it was said that hiro's adventures will have something to do with a future storyline that intersects with the other characters. so supposedly there will be things featured or said within hiro's adventures that will eventually play some kind of part with the other characters. does he mess the time line up. could hiro mistakenly create an evil that comes back to haunt everyone in the future? someone above mentioned something that sounds a lot like this.

also i just saw on tv where they said the killer that killed hiro's dad and then tried to kill peter and nathan's mom is one of the characters already on the show. then on nbc a while ago they played a commercial for heroes that said that one of the heroes is the killer but they didn't say who. maybe it's nikki/jessica. nah that would be too obvious. claire bear? that would be interesting. you know it's always the one we least expect. an evil version of hiro from an alternate timeline?

also the wonder twins, the brother and sister trying to cross the border have been given a bad review as new characters. this same website also asked the question, if peter wanted his identity back from that guy why didn't he just use his powers on him. i asked myself the same thing, peter at this point knew how to use some type of power. i'm starting to suspect that peter was placed in that containment unit by the same person or persons who took sylar and they're both being watched closely. maybe they were placed there to keep them out of the way.
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:01 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Its very complicated right now, dont know what role anyone plays, completely different from last season where through Issac they clued us in on almost all of there roles.

The brother and sister character I dont like yet ether.
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:58 PM   #26 (permalink)
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The painting of Bennet dead. How many people think that it is Clair and her boyfriend in the background of the picture? I personally think it is Nikki and someone else. Clair is noticibly taller than her boyfriend and in the picture the two people were about the same height. Nikki is also blond. The man on the phone with Nikki also said he would need one more thing from her if he cured her.

The nightmare man is non other than Kensi. If the man cannot be killed who says that he grows old. His cells would continue to reginerate. No sure he seems to have the same power as Clair, but lets face it who knows what his power entails. Sure Clair can grow old, she was healing from a baby (the fire). I say that Kensi cannot die, has evolved after being alive for three hundred years and grown many more powers, and is a bitter evil person. Cursed with ever lasting life he has seen everyone grow old and die including his love.

The "godsend" symbol was first seen on Nikki, but it dates back to Kensi. The symbol is showing up on everyone. Nikki, the past heroes, Peter, and who knows who else.
according to an interview that was done in a sci fi mag, ( i wish i could remember the name of it), kring said that all the characters play a major part in the show. remember save the cheerleader save the world? well she still has a big part to play. it was said that hiro's adventures will have something to do with a future storyline that intersects with the other characters. so supposedly there will be things featured or said within hiro's adventures that will eventually play some kind of part with the other characters. does he mess the time line up. could hiro mistakenly create an evil that comes back to haunt everyone in the future? someone above mentioned something that sounds a lot like this.

also i just saw on tv where they said the killer that killed hiro's dad and then tried to kill peter and nathan's mom is one of the characters already on the show. then on nbc a while ago they played a commercial for heroes that said that one of the heroes is the killer but they didn't say who. maybe it's nikki/jessica. nah that would be too obvious. claire bear? that would be interesting. you know it's always the one we least expect. an evil version of hiro from an alternate timeline?

also the wonder twins, the brother and sister trying to cross the border have been given a bad review as new characters. this same website also asked the question, if peter wanted his identity back from that guy why didn't he just use his powers on him. i asked myself the same thing, peter at this point knew how to use some type of power. i'm starting to suspect that peter was placed in that containment unit by the same person or persons who took sylar and they're both being watched closely. maybe they were placed there to keep them out of the way.
Here's a theory, what if Kensi has the same power as Peter or Sylar? He could have come in contact with someone that has the Regeneration Ability & didn't realize he had that power until what happened to him when he was shot in the chest with multiple arrows after Hiro showed up & caused trouble with that band of swordsmen that Yaeko(Kensi's Love) was trying to fight alone using Kensi's/Hiro's Sword. So if he is the one that killed Hiro's Dad then later after Hiro left him for good he would have come to realize for some reason he also had Hiro's Power which would explain why no one else hit the ground like Hiro's Dad did & why no one could see who was trying to kill Nathan & Peter's Mom in the Police Station.

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also the wonder twins, the brother and sister trying to cross the border have been given a bad review as new characters. this same website also asked the question, if peter wanted his identity back from that guy why didn't he just use his powers on him. i asked myself the same thing, peter at this point knew how to use some type of power. i'm starting to suspect that peter was placed in that containment unit by the same person or persons who took sylar and they're both being watched closely. maybe they were placed there to keep them out of the way.
Its very complicated right now, don't know what role anyone plays, completely different from last season where through Issac they clued us in on almost all of there roles.

The brother and sister character I don't like yet ether.
I say Maya Herrera & her brother Alejandro Herrera(aka "The Wonder Twins") have the Virus that kills certain Ability-Enhanced People(aka "Heroes") that Mohinder is looking for in certain "Heroes" & that for some reason inside Maya & Alejandro it changed & that Virus can now kill anyone with powers or not. Just like Mohinder was able to cure Molly Walker(the little girl who can track "Heroes") with his blood because he came to realize his sister was the first("Hero") to die from the original Hero-Killing Virus inside her, Alejandro is the only one who can cure anyone within a certain time frame before they die because of Maya infecting them.
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Old 10-12-2007, 03:42 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I haven't been enjoying this season thus far, it all seems very directionless. They really need to get the main arc up-and-running and hopefully it's not something as mudane as saving the old folks because after saving New York, that's kind of a step down.
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Old 10-13-2007, 03:01 AM   #28 (permalink)
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well here's some news on the upcoming two episodes.

****SPOILERS***** maybe even with what has been put out they really don't give much of anything. they're very good at keeping secrets.



they will introduce monica who is a cousin of micah. micah is being taken care of by D.L.'s family. as we know now D.L. is dead. monica develops some powers of her own and must learn to deal with them. claire's new boyfriend flys her around like superman eventually taking her to the hollywood sign. (yawn). noah suspects his daughter might have a new boyfriend. he also finds another painting to help his stop is apparent death. some sort of shocking discovery will be made by the wonder twins on their way to the US border. a shocking revelation will be told by nathan's and peters mom. matt will convince molly to track the evil on a map and when she does gets attacked. this leads matt and an unexpected ally to go after him in Philadelphia but they are no match for this evil. i'm wondering who the unexpected ally is? i'm thinking it's the Haitian. hiro continues to send ando messages thru clues he leaves in the past. a mysterious woman named elle (veronica mars' kristen bell) shows up in episode 5 and she's looking for peter. she just might be connected to his disappearance. she's also connected to noah and claire bennet. peter decides to leave his past behind until he discovers elle is looking for him and that she will even kill to find him. also the possible reappearance of the person who killed hiro's dad.



now this is just stuff i've read and heard. their's a name being thrown around in some places. that name is Kane. no not the wrestler, but a new character. it was revealed sometime before the season begin that kane is over 1000 years old and that he was being played by the actor who is playing kensei. now this just came out some time back, but the actor who plays kensei has been signed on for the whole season. hiro is only in the past for a few episodes so how does kensei have anything to do with being in the season if he's from the past? well the theory is that he's playing both kensei and kane. kane is said to be an immortal and it fits. kensei can't die and it's being believed that he's the one killing the past heroes. i'd like to see a sword fight between him and hiro. also the reason he's been signed on for the entire season is cuz the actor playing sylar will not be in the entire season. so don't expect too much from sylar. hes leaving to play mr. spock in the next star trek movie. jessica/nikki will not be featured in a lot of episodes but it's being said that when she does return something huge will happen.

i don't know but i just don't like heroes without sylar. i'm hoping he returns at least for the last episode of this season.

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Old 10-13-2007, 01:19 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Please tell me you actually like the Nikki/DL/Mika storyline. If you do, then you're just missing it, considering those characters apart from the Linderman connection don't really add anything to the plot.


I'm sort of intrested in that storyline but not alot. I like all the storylines except the one with Hiro in the past. I just find that one boring.

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Old 10-14-2007, 01:22 AM   #30 (permalink)
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i just saw the heroes promo on nbc a while ago where they say that one of the heroes is the killer and at the end of the promo they show what looks like kensei attacking hiro from behind. he's looks angry and kinda evil. i'm thinking he does play a big part for the rest of the series.
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Old 10-16-2007, 01:01 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I don't like the Twins either, I'm starting to TIVO past them a little. Whatever their part is, it'd BETTER be important.

I can't help but sense that the Killer could be Peter, or a Future Alternate Peter. I don't doubt that he was encountered by the Hatien, which explains his memory loss, and wearing the Haitan's Godsend necklace. Yes Peter wound up in Ireland while Hiro's father was killed in New York, but keep in mind, Peter can do what Hiro does.

When Peter was chocking that Irish Brother against the wall with telekenisis, Peter had a look of enjoyment when he was hurting him. Suppose maybe he absorbed more than Sylar's power when coming into contact with him?
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Old 10-16-2007, 01:57 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Tonight's show was pretty good! By the way Kristen Bell in on Next Monday!!!!!
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Old 10-17-2007, 03:15 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Pretty good episode this week. I think that learning about The Company slowly and almost member-by-member has actually increased my suspense and still allow for them to play The Company as good guys or bad guys.

Claire has gone from super cute cheerleader to angry skank almost overnight. Such a shame. And I'm almost 100% sure that Noah will find a way to avoid his fate (despite others being less than successful).

We are definitely seeing that there a limited amount of heroes within a limited amount of families. Hiro's family. Parkman's. The Petrellis. Almost all of our heroes are related to a company member in some way. Hopefully Maya or Kristen Bell are entirely unrelated otherwise I'm worried about the mass appeal of superheroes being kinda localized through a couple of select people.

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Old 10-17-2007, 07:19 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I thought this past episode was much better, which is surprising given the lack of Hiro and Peter. It just seemed more focused, which probably comes from less characters and I didn't get the sense of stalling like in previous episodes.

Hopefully next week's is even better given the Kristen factor.
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Im interested in finding out whats going on.

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Old 10-18-2007, 03:55 AM   #36 (permalink)
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My biggest problem with this season is that everyone seems so freaking stupid despite everything that happened in season one. The writers seem to be going out of their way to piss off and frustrate the audience who have become hardcore fans almost instantly.

Hiro/White Kensei/Ando Storyline

Okay, so the writers have thus far avoided the most obvious and wanted thing on the show, and that's to have Hiro become Kensei. Maybe that will happen, but it shows that they don't really have things paced too well when they're not leading toward that already. Also, why is Hiro writing to Ando while these things are happening? How did no one find those notes to Ando in the hundreds of years after they were written? If you're gonna mess with time travel, you have got to think of the ramifications.

Peter Petrelli/Lucky Charms Crew

One or all of these guys has to know more than he's telling about Peter, or they are the dumbest people on the face of the earth. They open a sealed crate to find a naked guy handcuffed inside, and they get pissed at him and say "what did you do with the iPods?"! WHY WOULD A HANDCUFFED NAKED GUY KNOW WHERE THE IPODS ARE?! I'm guessing/hoping that they work for The Company, and want to use him and his nearly god-like power to do some nasty stuff.

Noah/Claire/West

So Noah is trying to take down The Company with Mohinder's help. Claire is (once again) feeling like an outcast in high school. Can't they think of something new for her to do? Claire has always been portrayed as somewhat mature, so why she's suddenly risking everyone's safety for SuperDouche West is beyond me. You'd think with everything she went through and discovered about her father, that she would trust him when he says you need to be careful. Now, if West turns out to be a Company agent, it could explain why he seemingly is the one who kills Mr. Bennett, though it doesn't explain why he appears to be making out with Claire over his bloody corpse. But, if anyone can avoid death, it's Mr. Bennett.

Mrs. Petrelli/Nathan Petrelli/Matt Parkman/Molly/Nightmare Man

I still want to know what Mrs. Petrelli's power is, and I'm starting to think that flying is not Nathan's only ability. Are the scars on his face real or just a psychological hallucination? I think his powers could be more closely related to Peter's. Interesting that Nightmare Man is Matt's dad, and that the baby wasn't his. I'm guessing that White Kensei is the killer, and may have been the guy who started the group the Petrelli's, Linderman, Gold Guy, Linderman, and Nightmare Man belonged to. Since he can heal, there's reason to believe he doesn't age, right?

Sylar and The Wonder Twins

Just cross the freaking border already. All the girl does is cry or look like she's about to cry or just finished crying. The guy just looks stupid. I like Sylar's identity crisis, (introducing himself as Gabriel Gray) and I hope his powers return soon. Now that he has Candice's power (just like in "Five Years Gone," hmm), and once he is able to use his other ones, I think he may be used to stop Peter from whatever manipulation he'll be used for. One advantage that Sylar has over Peter is that he can use multiple powers simultaneously, while Peter, so far, has not. I loved the look on his face when he killed Derek and figured out what the twins can do. The guy is just so creepy, the show needs more of him.

Micah and his cousins

So, do the producers of this show just try to find the cheapest and least talented kid actors they can find? Micah is pure awful, and his gangsta cousin is even worse. I laughed and groaned when the older girl cousin (forgot her name), pwned the "I told you I's hungry!" robber with the 619. So, she has a Taskmaster power, but even if it's something that doesn't work in the real world, she can do it? Better watch The Matrix, quick.
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I can't stand the wonder twins boing storylines. & like Gumby said couldn't think of anything better for Claire & it's annoying how it seems shs picking her so-called boyfriend over her father.

0verall this season isn't as good as the first...
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Okay, so Hiro was in it tonight, but did a grand total of absolutely nothing. Peter's arc seems like it might be getting interesting.

The episode without Claire really seemedto flow better. Parkman/Petrelli stop at Matt's dad's apartment is really setting us up for some sweet things, even though I've seen that before in a Justice League episode. I hope the elder Parkman does stay a bad guy, because I think he could make a very creepy and evil sort of fellow. He's just got that little edge to him that if he exploits would make him just an amazing villain.

Ohh and Bruce Lee>Rey Misterio.

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Hayden wasn't on so I was disappointed about that. Kristen Bell is going to be super sexy as a bad girl!
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Nathan and Parkman's story is by far the best this season and Parkman's dad may not be the one behind all this madness, but he is definitely serving whoever is.

They've done a good job of having nearly every important character in each episode but as of this point, some of the plots seem very similar to Season 1 (Mohinder seeking out heroes, Sylar trying to acquire powers, Peter discovering, Claire wanting to be normal).

Hopefully next week gives us that big "OH CRAP" moment we've been waiting for. In Season 1, it was "Save the cheerleader, save the world" and I'm hoping it is equally as cool as that moment.
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