The "24" Anticipation & Discussion Thread - Page 3

Gumby · 03-02-2007, 04:01 PM

The whole Morris-is-an-alcoholic thing with Chloe is getting old already. Although having her barge into the men's room and telling that other guy "not now!" was hilarious. I love Chloe...she's just so socially awkward, like a real tech-nerd as good as she is would be.

I'm actually also starting to like Tom Lennox more and more. I'm guessing Assad is partially blamed for the attack on Wayne, but Lennox helps clear his name. Also, more Powers Booth!

Even with his limited screentime, Gregory Itzin proved why he was completely robbed of his Emmy last year. He was fantastic. More Logan! Bring back Martha and Aaron Pierce, dammit! And where the hell is Mike Novick?

**Bill5461** · 03-12-2007, 02:50 PM

Ok finally got to see the 3-5-07 episode. WTF is Jack doing, torturing the Ambassador in his own consulate. He's gonna end up dead before his contract with Fox is over.. The VP is one mean hardass. He'd kill his own mother if he suspected somerthing with her. I can't believe he hooked up with Palmer. Those are two completely differing opinions. Looks like next week (or tonight) Martha and Pierce are back...and it looks like they've hooked up.

Gumby · 03-15-2007, 10:37 PM

Day 6: 6:00 PM to 7:00 PM

I thought this was a pretty solid episode. Jean Smart and Gregory Itzin were great, of course, and it was good to see Aaron Pierce again. I love how the guy just never seems relaxed. LOL.

I'm already not liking Doyle. He seems like a Jack wannabe, especially when he choked Morris. I did like that they were able to get Suvorov's permission to storm the Consulate, though. It's nice to see politicians actually cooperating every once in a while. Although it seems Martha Logan's conversation with Mrs. Suvorov took about 5 seconds, with another 10 seconds for her to convince President Suvorov to let CTU do their thing.

Tom Lennox is awesome. It'll be interesting to see what happens with him and the Vice President.

Captain Beefheart · 03-16-2007, 07:27 PM

Guess I'm in the minority here, but I didn't really enjoy this episode. Found it too predictable and formulaic for even 24 standards. Doyle is the archetype over-agressive new authority figure this show has consistently introduced over the years who's going to eventually become part of the inner circle (see: Buchanan, Hayes, etc). Beyond that, not near enough Jack.

And PLEASE don't let Itz... er... Logan die... This guys is BY FAR... my favorite 24 character and the best actor on the series.

**Bill5461** · 03-19-2007, 05:49 AM

Logan might die...WTF...Well I've always said anyone is up for death in this show. Man the VP is a real hardass. and I 'm sorry, I can't accept Ricky Schroeder in a tough guy role...he needs to have some milk and cookies. So, how many minutes after the plane takes off will CTU show up to the airfield?

Gumby · 03-24-2007, 02:50 PM

Day 6: 7:00 PM to 8:00 PM

I didn't really care for this episode. Yet another mole in CTU? Do these guys ever do background checks? It's obvious it's not Nadia.

No update on the Logans? So, if a former President is stabbed by the former First Lady it WON'T make national news? Especially after he flatlined last time we saw him?!

No way is Audrey dead. And if she is, how much hell is Jack supposed to take? What's next, the cougar comes back and eats Kim on Jack's birthday?

Where's Philip Bauer? You'd think the authorities would be looking for him.

Why is Vice President Daniels such an uncompromising douchebag? And in what world is he allowed to just say, "we're bombing your country, no matter what anyone says." Is his character just a dig at President Bush or **** Cheney? I mean, other characters at least at some sort of rational point of view, but Daniels is just nuke-happy.

I know that 24 usually has some lulls before getting back on track, but the emphasis on useless subplots this season has been ridiculous. Let's hope they tighten things up soon.

**Bill5461** · 03-26-2007, 05:18 AM

I agree with pretty much what you said, and once again CTU shows up for the party 5 minutes late again. I think bringing up the whole Audrey thing is stupid. He's back from prison for 12 hours, been tortured a few times and stopped a couple of nukes, when were they supposed to have time to tell him. I really hope they start to pull this season together.

Stogieman · 03-27-2007, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Gumby

Day 6: 7:00 PM to 8:00 PM
No way is Audrey dead. And if she is, how much hell is Jack supposed to take? What's next, the cougar comes back and eats Kim on Jack's birthday?

Don't worry, once Jack finds out Kim was eaten by the cougar, he will suffer from spontaneous memory loss just like his wife did in season 1. He won't remember a thing.

Mo · 03-28-2007, 09:21 AM

Dam in Australia where way behind the eps they just aired here was the one when President Palmer got taken out...

**Bill5461** · 04-02-2007, 06:55 AM

Just caught the latest episode...Give me a break..Palmer goes from a coma to ALERT just like that. I see next week he's back at work. A couple of years ago they did this with Tony being shot in the neck. Nobody heals that fast.
So, they got the Russian, will we get to see some real torture here?

Gumby · 04-02-2007, 09:28 AM

Well, to be fair...Jack went from DEAD to kicking ass just like that, too. Besides, when Tony was shot, he was only grazed, but still injured.

I thought the Palmer thing was weak, regardless. Maybe because Wayne Palmer is a boring, weak character.

Mo · 04-05-2007, 12:56 PM

Well come to think of it we aren't that far behind the one they aired last night was Day 6: 6:00 PM to 7:00 PM so i think thats 2/3 weeks behind thats not bad considering other shows...

**Bill5461** · 04-09-2007, 06:21 AM

Ok, the writers have gone too far. Palmer launching the attack because he feels his manhood is threatened? It will be interesting next week to see if the terrorists spring Fayett, looks like a big shootout.

**open32** · 04-09-2007, 09:44 PM

This was the best episode of season so far.

But they keep leaving stuff out, like where does audry now fit in to this season and what about his father.

**Bill5461** · 04-10-2007, 06:12 AM

And, what state is Logan in now?

Gumby · 04-10-2007, 06:44 PM

"Damn, Jack."

That's all that needed to be said. Doyle is now part of the Church of Bauer.

Great episode. It really purged most of the crap that's been holding this season down after, what, 3-5 or so mediocre episodes? Bringing back the China problem is brilliant. Can't wait to see Jack get his revenge.

Now all they need to do is wrap up the storyline of Logan, Martha, and Jack's father.

Captain Beefheart · 04-10-2007, 10:25 PM

Well THAT episode restored my faith in the show. I am SO glad the nuke story arc is done. That fight at the end was the best fight scene I can remember seeing on the show ever. Doyle had a hard on after witnessing the aftermath of Jack's carnage=TEH WIN.

**open32** · 04-10-2007, 10:31 PM

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Bringing back the China problem is brilliant.

Sort of, I want to know what happend there, but it comes in a little out of place. Thats not what this season has been about. Other seasons with multiple story lines where more well connected.

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Now all they need to do is wrap up the storyline of Logan, Martha, and Jack's father.

Ya, a lot of problems left unconclueded.

Gumby · 04-11-2007, 07:19 PM

It's not really out of place. I don't think Cheng wanted to give Jack back to the United States in the first place. This is his way of forcing Jack to "pay" for what he did in Day 4 even more. He knows that torturing Jack is useless, and the only way to get to him is to threaten his loved ones. I don't see Cheng surviving the rest of the day, though. Screwing with Jack's family is worst thing on Earth you can do. Just ask the Drazens

Captain Beefheart · 04-11-2007, 07:37 PM

But there has to be more to it, if he knows Jack isn't going to snitch whoever gave the go for the consulate assault then why keep pushing it? He already outsourced using him as a bargain chip.

I have mixed feelings about Audrey coming back. Part of me is hoping she doesn't make it and Jack goes on a 2 continent killing spree to get revenge. That would be fun.

PS: On the general pace of the season, and on the last episode. I think at it' s best 24 gives the viewer a sense of helplessness which leads to suspense. At it' s worst, it relies on forced set pieces of action to motivate the viewer to keep watching. At least when it's dealing with side characters you don't know who is going to die or what is going to happen next, whereas everytime it becomes the Jack Bauer PWNAGE hour you know he isn't going to die so it' s just a matter of how many people is he going to take out this time.

04-09-2007, 09:44 PM	#54 (permalink)
open32 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 7,934 My Profile	This was the best episode of season so far. But they keep leaving stuff out, like where does audry now fit in to this season and what about his father. Last edited by open32; 04-09-2007 at 09:46 PM..

03-02-2007, 04:01 PM	#41 (permalink)
Gumby Ya Rly! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 976 My Profile	The whole Morris-is-an-alcoholic thing with Chloe is getting old already. Although having her barge into the men's room and telling that other guy "not now!" was hilarious. I love Chloe...she's just so socially awkward, like a real tech-nerd as good as she is would be. I'm actually also starting to like Tom Lennox more and more. I'm guessing Assad is partially blamed for the attack on Wayne, but Lennox helps clear his name. Also, more Powers Booth! Even with his limited screentime, Gregory Itzin proved why he was completely robbed of his Emmy last year. He was fantastic. More Logan! Bring back Martha and Aaron Pierce, dammit! And where the hell is Mike Novick?

03-12-2007, 02:50 PM	#42 (permalink)
Bill5461 Scarlett Mod Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 13,166 My Profile	Ok finally got to see the 3-5-07 episode. WTF is Jack doing, torturing the Ambassador in his own consulate. He's gonna end up dead before his contract with Fox is over.. The VP is one mean hardass. He'd kill his own mother if he suspected somerthing with her. I can't believe he hooked up with Palmer. Those are two completely differing opinions. Looks like next week (or tonight) Martha and Pierce are back...and it looks like they've hooked up.

03-15-2007, 10:37 PM	#43 (permalink)
Gumby Ya Rly! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 976 My Profile	Day 6: 6:00 PM to 7:00 PM I thought this was a pretty solid episode. Jean Smart and Gregory Itzin were great, of course, and it was good to see Aaron Pierce again. I love how the guy just never seems relaxed. LOL. I'm already not liking Doyle. He seems like a Jack wannabe, especially when he choked Morris. I did like that they were able to get Suvorov's permission to storm the Consulate, though. It's nice to see politicians actually cooperating every once in a while. Although it seems Martha Logan's conversation with Mrs. Suvorov took about 5 seconds, with another 10 seconds for her to convince President Suvorov to let CTU do their thing. Tom Lennox is awesome. It'll be interesting to see what happens with him and the Vice President.

03-16-2007, 07:27 PM	#44 (permalink)
Captain Beefheart Mu nótahu Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In a West End town, a dead end world Posts: 4,308 My Profile	Guess I'm in the minority here, but I didn't really enjoy this episode. Found it too predictable and formulaic for even 24 standards. Doyle is the archetype over-agressive new authority figure this show has consistently introduced over the years who's going to eventually become part of the inner circle (see: Buchanan, Hayes, etc). Beyond that, not near enough Jack. And PLEASE don't let Itz... er... Logan die... This guys is BY FAR... my favorite 24 character and the best actor on the series.

03-19-2007, 05:49 AM	#45 (permalink)
Bill5461 Scarlett Mod Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 13,166 My Profile	Logan might die...WTF...Well I've always said anyone is up for death in this show. Man the VP is a real hardass. and I 'm sorry, I can't accept Ricky Schroeder in a tough guy role...he needs to have some milk and cookies. So, how many minutes after the plane takes off will CTU show up to the airfield?

03-24-2007, 02:50 PM	#46 (permalink)
Gumby Ya Rly! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 976 My Profile	Day 6: 7:00 PM to 8:00 PM I didn't really care for this episode. Yet another mole in CTU? Do these guys ever do background checks? It's obvious it's not Nadia. No update on the Logans? So, if a former President is stabbed by the former First Lady it WON'T make national news? Especially after he flatlined last time we saw him?! No way is Audrey dead. And if she is, how much hell is Jack supposed to take? What's next, the cougar comes back and eats Kim on Jack's birthday? Where's Philip Bauer? You'd think the authorities would be looking for him. Why is Vice President Daniels such an uncompromising douchebag? And in what world is he allowed to just say, "we're bombing your country, no matter what anyone says." Is his character just a dig at President Bush or **** Cheney? I mean, other characters at least at some sort of rational point of view, but Daniels is just nuke-happy. I know that 24 usually has some lulls before getting back on track, but the emphasis on useless subplots this season has been ridiculous. Let's hope they tighten things up soon.

03-26-2007, 05:18 AM	#47 (permalink)
Bill5461 Scarlett Mod Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 13,166 My Profile	I agree with pretty much what you said, and once again CTU shows up for the party 5 minutes late again. I think bringing up the whole Audrey thing is stupid. He's back from prison for 12 hours, been tortured a few times and stopped a couple of nukes, when were they supposed to have time to tell him. I really hope they start to pull this season together.

03-28-2007, 09:21 AM	#49 (permalink)
Mo LH/FH.Com 0ld Skool Join Date: May 2000 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,515 My Profile	Dam in Australia where way behind the eps they just aired here was the one when President Palmer got taken out...

04-02-2007, 06:55 AM	#50 (permalink)
Bill5461 Scarlett Mod Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 13,166 My Profile	Just caught the latest episode...Give me a break..Palmer goes from a coma to ALERT just like that. I see next week he's back at work. A couple of years ago they did this with Tony being shot in the neck. Nobody heals that fast. So, they got the Russian, will we get to see some real torture here?

04-02-2007, 09:28 AM	#51 (permalink)
Gumby Ya Rly! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 976 My Profile	Well, to be fair...Jack went from DEAD to kicking ass just like that, too. Besides, when Tony was shot, he was only grazed, but still injured. I thought the Palmer thing was weak, regardless. Maybe because Wayne Palmer is a boring, weak character.

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04-05-2007, 12:56 PM	#52 (permalink)
Mo LH/FH.Com 0ld Skool Join Date: May 2000 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,515 My Profile	Well come to think of it we aren't that far behind the one they aired last night was Day 6: 6:00 PM to 7:00 PM so i think thats 2/3 weeks behind thats not bad considering other shows...

04-09-2007, 06:21 AM	#53 (permalink)
Bill5461 Scarlett Mod Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 13,166 My Profile	Ok, the writers have gone too far. Palmer launching the attack because he feels his manhood is threatened? It will be interesting next week to see if the terrorists spring Fayett, looks like a big shootout.

04-10-2007, 06:12 AM	#55 (permalink)
Bill5461 Scarlett Mod Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 13,166 My Profile	And, what state is Logan in now?

04-10-2007, 06:44 PM	#56 (permalink)
Gumby Ya Rly! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 976 My Profile	"Damn, Jack." That's all that needed to be said. Doyle is now part of the Church of Bauer. Great episode. It really purged most of the crap that's been holding this season down after, what, 3-5 or so mediocre episodes? Bringing back the China problem is brilliant. Can't wait to see Jack get his revenge. Now all they need to do is wrap up the storyline of Logan, Martha, and Jack's father.

04-10-2007, 10:25 PM	#57 (permalink)
Captain Beefheart Mu nótahu Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In a West End town, a dead end world Posts: 4,308 My Profile	Well THAT episode restored my faith in the show. I am SO glad the nuke story arc is done. That fight at the end was the best fight scene I can remember seeing on the show ever. Doyle had a hard on after witnessing the aftermath of Jack's carnage=TEH WIN.

04-11-2007, 07:19 PM	#59 (permalink)
Gumby Ya Rly! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 976 My Profile	It's not really out of place. I don't think Cheng wanted to give Jack back to the United States in the first place. This is his way of forcing Jack to "pay" for what he did in Day 4 even more. He knows that torturing Jack is useless, and the only way to get to him is to threaten his loved ones. I don't see Cheng surviving the rest of the day, though. Screwing with Jack's family is worst thing on Earth you can do. Just ask the Drazens

04-11-2007, 07:37 PM	#60 (permalink)
Captain Beefheart Mu nótahu Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In a West End town, a dead end world Posts: 4,308 My Profile	But there has to be more to it, if he knows Jack isn't going to snitch whoever gave the go for the consulate assault then why keep pushing it? He already outsourced using him as a bargain chip. I have mixed feelings about Audrey coming back. Part of me is hoping she doesn't make it and Jack goes on a 2 continent killing spree to get revenge. That would be fun. PS: On the general pace of the season, and on the last episode. I think at it' s best 24 gives the viewer a sense of helplessness which leads to suspense. At it' s worst, it relies on forced set pieces of action to motivate the viewer to keep watching. At least when it's dealing with side characters you don't know who is going to die or what is going to happen next, whereas everytime it becomes the Jack Bauer PWNAGE hour you know he isn't going to die so it' s just a matter of how many people is he going to take out this time.