So... Season 2, huh? - Page 6

Gumby · 11-23-2007, 05:08 AM

The episode last week should have been the premiere, or at least the second episode of the season. That, and this episode have really picked up the pace.

I just can't believe that Kring and Co. actually sat in story meetings and were all "yup, let's make Claire a whiny brat, and put the Wonder Twins onscreen as much as possible without having them actually do anything! And since Sylar was probably the most popular character that didn't wear glasses, let's show him the least...with no powers. Oh, and let's put Hiro in Japan for 199 episodes without doing anything, and instead of doing what everyone expected and have Hiro's father be Kensei, let's make the fabled Japanese warrior a white English guy with Claire's powers."

Yet I can't seem to get a break writing scripts at all. Damn you, Hollywood. Damn you to Hell.

Maybe when the strike's over.

**SMG Rules** · 11-27-2007, 02:24 AM

Well two people did in the finale next week. I'm thinking Sylar will kill the sister(can't think of her name) and also I think Claire's boyfriend will die.

**open32** · 11-27-2007, 08:10 PM

I dont get it. Why does Peter blindly trust Kensi. To the point where he would even go againt Hiro, who he knows is his freind.

11-29-2007, 01:10 AM

This "Finale", is it the finale of the season or the series?

**open32** · 11-29-2007, 01:17 AM

Season for now.

With this writers strike nothing at all was canceled this year. But its ratings dropped a lot and this is one of the more expensive shows.

rlm · 12-04-2007, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Avis Phlox

This "Finale", is it the finale of the season or the series?

it looks like the end of this season. chapter 3 "villians" won't be seen till probably around the summer of 2008. they're expecting the strike to last as long as march since nothing has been resolved as of yet. what's cool is that the next chapter opens up with sylar getting his powers back. i knew he would come back. it's also good in some way that there won't be any episodes made. this will allow zachary quinto (sylar) to go and film the star trek movie and get it over with, without it getting in the way of filming heroes. so maybe he'll be full time on the show next season.

**open32** · 12-04-2007, 05:41 AM

Yup, last one. Though it was rushed, im happy this season is done and I liked the way it ended. They not only have sylar to worry about, but it looks like everyone is going to go to war with the company.

Im wondering when they will start the new seasons for all the things that ended or will end soon due to the seasons being cut short. I hope it isnt september again.

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they're expecting the strike to last as long as march since nothing has been resolved as of yet.

The actors guild (SAG) contract comes up at the end of June. One of the big reasons the studios dont want to give in is they dont want to set a precedent as the actors will be asking for much of the same thing the writers are. If the writers are going to hold out anywhere near as long as March, then I wouldnt expect anything till July.

Gumby · 12-04-2007, 06:48 PM

The last couple of episodes were really good. It's almost as if the staff has the cool parts all planned out, but not the path to them, so we get 9876 episodes of Hiro in Japan and Claire's boyfriend drama. And Micah and Monica. Ugh.

Anyone else cheer when Sylar shot the Wonder Twin? Glad to see him get his powers back. Hopefully he'll use more than just telekinesis. He's still nuclear, you know.

I hope Elle stays around. She'd be good if they had her doing good deeds just for praise and attention, but remain a psycho.

**SMG Rules** · 12-05-2007, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Gumby

Anyone else cheer when Sylar shot the Wonder Twin? Glad to see him get his powers back. Hopefully he'll use more than just telekinesis. He's still nuclear, you know.

I was so happy that he killed atleast one of them. It sucked that the sister came back because I was hoping she was dead also. Sylar is just great! Season three(whenever it starts) is gonna be really good.

**open32** · 12-05-2007, 12:30 AM

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She'd be good if they had her doing good deeds just for praise and attention

I think she just figured that out, she was so happy when Mohinder told her she saved there lives. I think we'll see her going after the company next season.

**MSFixR** · 12-05-2007, 06:58 AM

On the whole, season 2 was kind of dull - writer's block? Anyway, I have a question regarding the final episode - who was buried in the coffin? Was it the samurai?

Mo · 12-05-2007, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Gumby

Anyone else cheer when Sylar shot the Wonder Twin? .

YES 0h YES

Lets hope we get more of these type of eps next season & not the other crap...

rlm · 12-07-2007, 04:22 AM

yes it was kensei/adam monroe who was buried. i'm wondering how hiro managed to do that? but who shot nathan? i know his mom (evil woman) ordered him shot if he tried to expose the truth. but who did she get to shoot nathan? when the guy turns around the corner i thought it was sylar because then a while later you see sylar sitting out in that alley getting his powers back and he seems to be wearing the same clothes as that guy walking away. at least it looked that way to me.

can you believe that because there are no more heroes episodes that nbc will be putting up deal or no deal in it's place. i guess i'll be tuning into the sarah conner chronicles on fox instead. it's on monday nights. so that'll have to do for the meantime.

**open32** · 12-07-2007, 06:00 AM

I dont know if nathans mom order the hit. She was on the phone saying she understood it had to be done. I think she knew about it, but didnt order it.

I dont see how or why, according to the story line, that it would have been sylar.

NBC has Clash or the Choirs starting December 17th at 9PM. Not that its any better then deal or no deal. I was planing to catch Sarah Conner Chronicles anyway

M@tt · 12-07-2007, 01:38 PM

I'm betting the gunman is HRG. Well, unless they throw a curveball and it's someone like Daddy Petrelli. But of the regular cast, Noah makes the most sense.

Gumby · 12-07-2007, 07:26 PM

I bet Noah shooting Nathan was part of the deal he made with The Company to leave Claire alone.

I would like to meet Daddy Petrelli, even though everyone says he's dead. I want Nathan to live, too. He's one of the most interesting characters on the show, and Pasdar is one of the best actors.

Did anyone else think that Hiro burying Adam alive was exceptionally cold and cruel? I mean, considering how Hiro is all about being a hero and doing the right thing. This could be the first step to him becoming badass Future Hiro.

Hopefully they can turn things around for Volume Three. There's a lot they have to address. Like:

Peter gets dumber as he gets more powerful. They need to put a limit on his abilities.
If Claire and Adam can heal people with their blood, then the threat of death is irrelevant. There needs to be a catch.
Stop making Mohinder so freaking retarded.
Season 1 worked because there was an identified threat (the bomb), which didn't really happen this season. There needs to be some sort of goal that brings all the heroes together.
Get rid of Micah and Monica. Keep Nikki dead.
Bring back Nightmare Man/Papa Parkman
Just what did the Original 12 do?
What did that other stuff in the vault (the brain, cards, golden key, etc.) mean?
Develop the characters they already have. No more new ones until we care about the ones they have.
Peter vs. Sylar WILL last more than 5 minutes!
Claire vs. Elle WILL involve bikinis and Jell-O!
Kill West. Let him fly into the side of a mountain or something.

**SMG Rules** · 12-08-2007, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Gumby

Claire vs. Elle WILL involve bikinis and Jell-O!

Now that would be GREAT!!!!!!! It would be must see tv

rlm · 12-08-2007, 04:58 AM

i would make loads of gifs of a scene involving claire and elle. according to kring next season will explore the "villians". it sounded in the interview like he was saying they were going to introduce new characters, that these people were the villians that would go up against the heroes we already know. could mama petrelli be one of these villians? is sylar one of them or will he fight against them for his own goals? he also said the future of nikki and nathan is up in the air and that the fans reactions to these characters could be the deciding factor as to whether or not they come back in VOLUM3 : "Villians"

**open32** · 12-08-2007, 02:41 PM

I like Nikki, I liked Nathan also but we really dont need him. Dont like or need Monica or Mica or West.

I think Elle will switch sides.

Gumby · 12-08-2007, 05:34 PM

I thought that it was lame that Nathan was brought back in the first place. It made his sacrifice at the end of Volume 1 pointless.

The only other way they could go regarding Peter is if they make him so powerful he either tries to save the world by controlling it or stops caring altogether ala Dr. Manhattan ("Watchmen"). Tons of story potential either way.

Another massive plothole: Who saved Sylar at the end of Volume 1? They said The Company did, but if they were there, why didn't they stop him sooner? If they wanted the explosion to happen, shouldn't they have stopped the heroes from fighting Sylar so they wouldn't have time to prevent Peter from exploding? What did the cockroaches signify? I thought it was going to be another super-powered nasty, but instead we get an ambiguous, ill-defined plot device.

I don't mind The Company, but they shouldn't be the main threat. They should always be something to watch out for in the background. The whole premise of the show is "what would you do if you had super powers." Some made good choices, others made bad. Volume 2 should have been the cost of using those powers on your soul. The only character who addresses the cost of his own actions is Mr. Bennett, and he doesn't even have any powers. Hiro should start weighing his ideals vs. reality, and consider that maybe becoming Future Hiro is unavoidable and even necessary. Maybe "Villains" is a step in the right direction. There are definitely people out there who would use their powers for personal gain.

I'll give them a chance, but if they don't improve, I'll have to be done with the show.

12-07-2007, 07:26 PM	#116 (permalink)
Gumby Ya Rly! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 976 My Profile	I bet Noah shooting Nathan was part of the deal he made with The Company to leave Claire alone. I would like to meet Daddy Petrelli, even though everyone says he's dead. I want Nathan to live, too. He's one of the most interesting characters on the show, and Pasdar is one of the best actors. Did anyone else think that Hiro burying Adam alive was exceptionally cold and cruel? I mean, considering how Hiro is all about being a hero and doing the right thing. This could be the first step to him becoming badass Future Hiro. Hopefully they can turn things around for Volume Three. There's a lot they have to address. Like: Peter gets dumber as he gets more powerful. They need to put a limit on his abilities. If Claire and Adam can heal people with their blood, then the threat of death is irrelevant. There needs to be a catch. Stop making Mohinder so freaking retarded. Season 1 worked because there was an identified threat (the bomb), which didn't really happen this season. There needs to be some sort of goal that brings all the heroes together. Get rid of Micah and Monica. Keep Nikki dead. Bring back Nightmare Man/Papa Parkman Just what did the Original 12 do? What did that other stuff in the vault (the brain, cards, golden key, etc.) mean? Develop the characters they already have. No more new ones until we care about the ones they have. Peter vs. Sylar WILL last more than 5 minutes! Claire vs. Elle WILL involve bikinis and Jell-O! Kill West. Let him fly into the side of a mountain or something.

11-23-2007, 05:08 AM	#101 (permalink)
Gumby Ya Rly! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 976 My Profile	The episode last week should have been the premiere, or at least the second episode of the season. That, and this episode have really picked up the pace. I just can't believe that Kring and Co. actually sat in story meetings and were all "yup, let's make Claire a whiny brat, and put the Wonder Twins onscreen as much as possible without having them actually do anything! And since Sylar was probably the most popular character that didn't wear glasses, let's show him the least...with no powers. Oh, and let's put Hiro in Japan for 199 episodes without doing anything, and instead of doing what everyone expected and have Hiro's father be Kensei, let's make the fabled Japanese warrior a white English guy with Claire's powers." Yet I can't seem to get a break writing scripts at all. Damn you, Hollywood. Damn you to Hell. Maybe when the strike's over.

11-27-2007, 02:24 AM	#102 (permalink)
SMG Rules The Wicked One Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA Posts: 883 My Profile	Well two people did in the finale next week. I'm thinking Sylar will kill the sister(can't think of her name) and also I think Claire's boyfriend will die.

11-27-2007, 08:10 PM	#103 (permalink)
open32 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 7,934 My Profile	I dont get it. Why does Peter blindly trust Kensi. To the point where he would even go againt Hiro, who he knows is his freind.

11-29-2007, 01:10 AM	#104 (permalink)
Avis Phlox Guest Posts: n/a	This "Finale", is it the finale of the season or the series?

11-29-2007, 01:17 AM	#105 (permalink)
open32 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 7,934 My Profile	Season for now. With this writers strike nothing at all was canceled this year. But its ratings dropped a lot and this is one of the more expensive shows.

12-04-2007, 06:48 PM	#108 (permalink)
Gumby Ya Rly! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 976 My Profile	The last couple of episodes were really good. It's almost as if the staff has the cool parts all planned out, but not the path to them, so we get 9876 episodes of Hiro in Japan and Claire's boyfriend drama. And Micah and Monica. Ugh. Anyone else cheer when Sylar shot the Wonder Twin? Glad to see him get his powers back. Hopefully he'll use more than just telekinesis. He's still nuclear, you know. I hope Elle stays around. She'd be good if they had her doing good deeds just for praise and attention, but remain a psycho.

12-05-2007, 06:58 AM	#111 (permalink)
MSFixR Moderate Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dante's Inferno, Circle 5 Posts: 10,066 My Profile	On the whole, season 2 was kind of dull - writer's block? Anyway, I have a question regarding the final episode - who was buried in the coffin? Was it the samurai?

12-07-2007, 04:22 AM	#113 (permalink)
rlm Member of Sylar's Army Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: tx Posts: 2,097 My Profile	yes it was kensei/adam monroe who was buried. i'm wondering how hiro managed to do that? but who shot nathan? i know his mom (evil woman) ordered him shot if he tried to expose the truth. but who did she get to shoot nathan? when the guy turns around the corner i thought it was sylar because then a while later you see sylar sitting out in that alley getting his powers back and he seems to be wearing the same clothes as that guy walking away. at least it looked that way to me. can you believe that because there are no more heroes episodes that nbc will be putting up deal or no deal in it's place. i guess i'll be tuning into the sarah conner chronicles on fox instead. it's on monday nights. so that'll have to do for the meantime.

12-07-2007, 06:00 AM	#114 (permalink)
open32 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 7,934 My Profile	I dont know if nathans mom order the hit. She was on the phone saying she understood it had to be done. I think she knew about it, but didnt order it. I dont see how or why, according to the story line, that it would have been sylar. NBC has Clash or the Choirs starting December 17th at 9PM. Not that its any better then deal or no deal. I was planing to catch Sarah Conner Chronicles anyway

12-07-2007, 01:38 PM	#115 (permalink)
M@tt Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: UK Posts: 1,965 My Profile	I'm betting the gunman is HRG. Well, unless they throw a curveball and it's someone like Daddy Petrelli. But of the regular cast, Noah makes the most sense.

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12-08-2007, 04:58 AM	#118 (permalink)
rlm Member of Sylar's Army Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: tx Posts: 2,097 My Profile	i would make loads of gifs of a scene involving claire and elle. according to kring next season will explore the "villians". it sounded in the interview like he was saying they were going to introduce new characters, that these people were the villians that would go up against the heroes we already know. could mama petrelli be one of these villians? is sylar one of them or will he fight against them for his own goals? he also said the future of nikki and nathan is up in the air and that the fans reactions to these characters could be the deciding factor as to whether or not they come back in VOLUM3 : "Villians"

12-08-2007, 02:41 PM	#119 (permalink)
open32 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 7,934 My Profile	I like Nikki, I liked Nathan also but we really dont need him. Dont like or need Monica or Mica or West. I think Elle will switch sides.

12-08-2007, 05:34 PM	#120 (permalink)
Gumby Ya Rly! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 976 My Profile	I thought that it was lame that Nathan was brought back in the first place. It made his sacrifice at the end of Volume 1 pointless. The only other way they could go regarding Peter is if they make him so powerful he either tries to save the world by controlling it or stops caring altogether ala Dr. Manhattan ("Watchmen"). Tons of story potential either way. Another massive plothole: Who saved Sylar at the end of Volume 1? They said The Company did, but if they were there, why didn't they stop him sooner? If they wanted the explosion to happen, shouldn't they have stopped the heroes from fighting Sylar so they wouldn't have time to prevent Peter from exploding? What did the cockroaches signify? I thought it was going to be another super-powered nasty, but instead we get an ambiguous, ill-defined plot device. I don't mind The Company, but they shouldn't be the main threat. They should always be something to watch out for in the background. The whole premise of the show is "what would you do if you had super powers." Some made good choices, others made bad. Volume 2 should have been the cost of using those powers on your soul. The only character who addresses the cost of his own actions is Mr. Bennett, and he doesn't even have any powers. Hiro should start weighing his ideals vs. reality, and consider that maybe becoming Future Hiro is unavoidable and even necessary. Maybe "Villains" is a step in the right direction. There are definitely people out there who would use their powers for personal gain. I'll give them a chance, but if they don't improve, I'll have to be done with the show.