"Spider-Man 3" Villains CONFIRMED

**RebelMan** · 09-26-2005, 09:45 PM

Kristen Dunst Confirms Spider-Man 3 Villains
Source: Zap2it
September 26, 2005

During an interview this weekend promoting Elizabethtown, Kirsten Dunst confirmed rumors to Zap2it that Thomas Haden Church will play SANDMAN and Topher Grace is VENOM in director Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 3, opening in theaters on May 4, 2007.

"We have really great people though as the villains in this film, Thomas Haden Church and Topher Grace -- Venom and Sandman," said Dunst, who plays Mary Jane Watson in the Spidey films.

"Maybe I wasn't supposed to say that," she added before reversing her claim. "It's the other way around. You're right," she conceded to a journalist.

Dunst has yet to receive a script for the third film that will begin shooting in January. "But I know the general story. There's a lot that they're trying to fit into this one."

09-26-2005, 11:40 PM

oh please tell me they are not doing two villains :( that's how they screwed batman

edawg99 · 09-27-2005, 11:36 AM

:D I was waiting for so long for the to bring Venom into the mix. Venom is the best Spiderman villian I think.

09-27-2005, 11:59 AM

Wow what a loud-mouthed *****.

Wait Topher Grace... Why?

Dark Dude · 09-27-2005, 01:29 PM

umm cuz hes a pretty boy, though

09-27-2005, 02:18 PM

I could buy Thomas Haden Church as Sandman, although Sandman is really more of a henchman-type villain, because he's really not very smart.

But...Topher Grace? What?! <big>WHAT?!</big> I'd buy him as Cletus Kasady, but not as Venom (or Sandman, for that matter).

Can't they get a guy who's already big and intimidating to play Venom? Actually, he'd only have to play Eddie Brock, then someone who's a good voice actor could play Venom, since Venom's face will be nothing but CGI.

SilverSpoon · 09-27-2005, 06:20 PM

Well, Topher has been working out a lot for this movie, so maybe he might fit the role physically. I really haven't seen what he looks like lately. But he still has time to buff up more since they're not into produciton yet.

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oh please tell me they are not doing two villains [Frown] that's how they screwed batman

Not really. Batman Returns was freakin' awesome.

If they have Venom, though, I don't really see why Sandman would need to be there, though I'll trust Raimi with whatever way he worked out the story. And I've never really agreed with Sandman in the first place. He doesn't have any sort of connection to Peter like Green Goblin and Doc Ock did.

09-28-2005, 01:10 AM

I'd always invisioned Timothy Olymphant (Go; Girl Next Door; Scream 2) playing Venom. But that other guy? Think Venom will be CG, and move just like the mutants in the church in Resident Evil: Apocolypse?

I agree with Trine X, taking the path Batman took might not be a good sign. Two villans could mean too many subplots. Much like them squeezing Bane in Batman & Robin, and making him retarded.

Maybe Sandman could be a bit of a pushover once Spiderman unleashs water on him. But I've never read the comics of Sandman, so am I underestimating him?

[ September 28, 2005, 12:59 AM: Message edited by: rebelman20 ]

Coprophagia · 09-28-2005, 02:24 AM

only carnage and venom can appear together

09-28-2005, 08:52 PM

well if they do it like batman and give him more of a cameo... that would be ok. I think it would take 2 movies to build up venom like teh comics. like this would get him the suit and at the end he loses it and venom starts.. that would be alright

**RebelMan** · 09-28-2005, 09:07 PM

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Originally posted by TrineX:
well if they do it like batman and give him more of a cameo... that would be ok. I think it would take 2 movies to build up venom like teh comics. like this would get him the suit and at the end he loses it and venom starts.. that would be alright

Well Sam Raimi could be using Topher Grace because of how they did the Venom Storyline in the Ultimate Spider-Man Comics. Maybe that is why Topher will be playing Venom & if this is the last "Spider-Man" Movie by Sam, Toby Maguire, & Kirsten Dunst he could be the Main Villian & Sandman could be the Side-Kick Lacky.

Besides they are still saying Dylan Baker who played Dr. Curt Connors in "Spidey 2" will be in "Spidey 3" & James Franco who played Harry Osborn in "Spidey" & "Spidey 2" will be in "Spidey 3" too.

So we have 3 Main Villians & 1(Maybe) Lacky:

Main Villians
Venom
Hobgoblin
The Lizard

Lacky
Sandman

09-28-2005, 09:47 PM

it won't be the last. Sam said he'd do 7 if he could

**RebelMan** · 09-28-2005, 10:07 PM

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Originally posted by TrineX:
it won't be the last. Sam said he'd do 7 if he could

Yeah I remember that. But he also said he wanted to take a break after "Spidey 3" for a while like Toby & Kirsten said(in an interview to someone) in order to do other things for a while. But also so he could get everything to start rolling so he could do 4 More "Spidey" Movies with Toby & Kirsten. Remember all 3 were only Contracted to do 3 Films in total.

SilverSpoon · 09-28-2005, 10:08 PM

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I think it would take 2 movies to build up venom like teh comics.

Hah, more than that. There's the whole Secret Wars thing, and then Peter's gallavanting around as Black Spidey, and then finally Venom.

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Besides they are still saying Dylan Baker who played Dr. Curt Connors in "Spidey 2" will be in "Spidey 3" & James Franco who played Harry Osborn in "Spidey" & "Spidey 2" will be in "Spidey 3" too.

So we have 3 Main Villians & 1(Maybe) Lacky:

Main Villians
Venom
Hobgoblin
The Lizard

Lacky
Sandman

Well, I'm doubting they were building up the Lizard thing with Connors. He's there because he is a prof a tthe university, and it's one of those little things that makes fanboys jump out of their seats. Kind of like showing Hank McCoy on the TV in X-Men.

If Harry does become a villain, I don't think he'd be Hobgoblin. Harry was never Hobgoblin in the comics, and Raimi seems to like to follow them pretty well. Maybe not exactly, but he gets the important things right.

**RebelMan** · 09-29-2005, 02:04 PM

Source: MTV.com

Meanwhile, Kirsten Dunst again said who she believes are the villains to MTV:

"I think we have ... I'm going to say two and a half bad guys," the "Elizabethtown" star said. "Because I think one of them is resurrected. But yeah, two and a half bad guys, I think, about in this movie."

She is referring to Thomas Haden Church playing Sandman and Topher Grace playing Venom in the film, with the identity of the "half" villain unknown at this time, but it could possibly be Harry Osborn turning into Green Goblin II or Hobgoblin.

[ September 29, 2005, 01:06 PM: Message edited by: rebelman20 ]

SilverSpoon · 09-29-2005, 02:52 PM

Or Harry is just holding a really big grudge, which could account for the half bad guy. Like, he's not really a bad guy-bad guy, but now he's against Spidey AND Peter and is trying to get back at him for killing his father.

I find it hard to think Raimi would have three villains in one movie, and have two of them be major villains. It would ruin the movie for sure. Sandman as the lackey type of villain makes sense, Venom could definitely hold his own story. Bringing in another Goblin would need a whole other major plot. SO that's why I think Harry won't don the suit in the next movie. He probably has to deal with the fact that Peter is Spidey and his father was Green Goblin, and his part of the story will revolve around that and the increased tension between him and Peter.

LATE EDIT: I just remembered Dunst was the one who said The Lizard was going to be the Spidey 2 villain, and look how wrong she was.

[ October 01, 2005, 06:34 AM: Message edited by: SilverSpoon ]

10-02-2005, 06:49 AM

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Originally posted by Lemmiwinks:

But...Topher Grace? What?! <big>WHAT?!</big> I'd buy him as Cletus Kasady, but not as Venom (or Sandman, for that matter).

Dude, I can imagine him playing Peter Parker. Him and Tobey MacGuire are similar enough as it is. May as well throw in Elijah Wood as another "badass" and call it a day.

**RebelMan** · 10-02-2005, 09:21 PM

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Kirsten Talks More About Spidey 3
Source: IESB
October 2, 2005

Q: When you do start Spiderman 3?

A: January

Q: Are you doing anything special to prepare for this one?

A: I do have to take lessons in two different things. But I can't say because I would give it all away.

Q: Is this really going to be the last one for you?

A: Yeah, unless they pay me an exorbitant amount of money. (laughing) Well if there is more story to tell and Sam Raimi is on board and everyone is then maybe but this is what I am signed to do…three.

So if Sam, Tobey, & a couple of others come back then she will too. Just like Sam & Tobey have told other people since "Spidey 2".

10-04-2005, 03:41 AM

Anybody know an elaborite site that has good detail of every marvel comic superhero's backstory? I'd love to read more on these villians.

**RebelMan** · 10-04-2005, 03:25 PM

Sony Pictures Releases Candidates For Villian/Villians in "Spider-Man 3":

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Official Spider-Man Villain Gallery
Source: Sony Pictures
October 3, 2005

Sony Pictures has launched an official "Spider-Man" villain gallery at the movies' official website. The site says that "there has been a lot of speculation about who the villains will be in the upcoming 'Spider-Man 3.' We're not going to spoil your fun but here are some of the candidates."

Click Link to see who the Candidates are:
http://spiderman.sonypictures.com/movie/vgallery/

2 Villians on the List(According to Kirsten Dunst 1 of these 2 Villians might be brought back to Life in "Spidey 3") is Green Goblin & Doc Oc.

Looks like they are trying to cover their butts in Case what Dunst said is true in order to throw everyone off.

09-26-2005, 09:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
RebelMan AgEnT oF ChAoS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Web Posts: 10,944 My Profile	Kristen Dunst Confirms Spider-Man 3 Villains Source: Zap2it September 26, 2005 During an interview this weekend promoting Elizabethtown, Kirsten Dunst confirmed rumors to Zap2it that Thomas Haden Church will play SANDMAN and Topher Grace is VENOM in director Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 3, opening in theaters on May 4, 2007. "We have really great people though as the villains in this film, Thomas Haden Church and Topher Grace -- Venom and Sandman," said Dunst, who plays Mary Jane Watson in the Spidey films. "Maybe I wasn't supposed to say that," she added before reversing her claim. "It's the other way around. You're right," she conceded to a journalist. Dunst has yet to receive a script for the third film that will begin shooting in January. "But I know the general story. There's a lot that they're trying to fit into this one."

09-26-2005, 11:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
TrineX Guest Posts: n/a	oh please tell me they are not doing two villains :( that's how they screwed batman

09-27-2005, 11:36 AM	#3 (permalink)
edawg99 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 8,814 My Profile	:D I was waiting for so long for the to bring Venom into the mix. Venom is the best Spiderman villian I think.

09-27-2005, 11:59 AM	#4 (permalink)
BETA Guest Posts: n/a	Wow what a loud-mouthed *****. Wait Topher Grace... Why?

09-27-2005, 01:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
Dark Dude sla-pus a bit-chus Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: San Antonio Posts: 933 My Profile	umm cuz hes a pretty boy, though

09-27-2005, 02:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
Lemmiwinks Guest Posts: n/a	I could buy Thomas Haden Church as Sandman, although Sandman is really more of a henchman-type villain, because he's really not very smart. But...Topher Grace? What?! <big>WHAT?!</big> I'd buy him as Cletus Kasady, but not as Venom (or Sandman, for that matter). Can't they get a guy who's already big and intimidating to play Venom? Actually, he'd only have to play Eddie Brock, then someone who's a good voice actor could play Venom, since Venom's face will be nothing but CGI.

09-28-2005, 01:10 AM	#8 (permalink)
Paul Guest Posts: n/a	I'd always invisioned Timothy Olymphant (Go; Girl Next Door; Scream 2) playing Venom. But that other guy? Think Venom will be CG, and move just like the mutants in the church in Resident Evil: Apocolypse? I agree with Trine X, taking the path Batman took might not be a good sign. Two villans could mean too many subplots. Much like them squeezing Bane in Batman & Robin, and making him retarded. Maybe Sandman could be a bit of a pushover once Spiderman unleashs water on him. But I've never read the comics of Sandman, so am I underestimating him? [ September 28, 2005, 12:59 AM: Message edited by: rebelman20 ]

09-28-2005, 02:24 AM	#9 (permalink)
Coprophagia Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 668 My Profile	only carnage and venom can appear together

09-28-2005, 08:52 PM	#10 (permalink)
TrineX Guest Posts: n/a	well if they do it like batman and give him more of a cameo... that would be ok. I think it would take 2 movies to build up venom like teh comics. like this would get him the suit and at the end he loses it and venom starts.. that would be alright

09-28-2005, 09:47 PM	#12 (permalink)
TrineX Guest Posts: n/a	it won't be the last. Sam said he'd do 7 if he could

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09-29-2005, 02:04 PM	#15 (permalink)
RebelMan AgEnT oF ChAoS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Web Posts: 10,944 My Profile	Source: MTV.com Meanwhile, Kirsten Dunst again said who she believes are the villains to MTV: "I think we have ... I'm going to say two and a half bad guys," the "Elizabethtown" star said. "Because I think one of them is resurrected. But yeah, two and a half bad guys, I think, about in this movie." She is referring to Thomas Haden Church playing Sandman and Topher Grace playing Venom in the film, with the identity of the "half" villain unknown at this time, but it could possibly be Harry Osborn turning into Green Goblin II or Hobgoblin. [ September 29, 2005, 01:06 PM: Message edited by: rebelman20 ]

09-29-2005, 02:52 PM	#16 (permalink)
SilverSpoon Kamen Rider Kiva Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: www.canofnothing.com Posts: 7,567	Or Harry is just holding a really big grudge, which could account for the half bad guy. Like, he's not really a bad guy-bad guy, but now he's against Spidey AND Peter and is trying to get back at him for killing his father. I find it hard to think Raimi would have three villains in one movie, and have two of them be major villains. It would ruin the movie for sure. Sandman as the lackey type of villain makes sense, Venom could definitely hold his own story. Bringing in another Goblin would need a whole other major plot. SO that's why I think Harry won't don the suit in the next movie. He probably has to deal with the fact that Peter is Spidey and his father was Green Goblin, and his part of the story will revolve around that and the increased tension between him and Peter. LATE EDIT: I just remembered Dunst was the one who said The Lizard was going to be the Spidey 2 villain, and look how wrong she was. [ October 01, 2005, 06:34 AM: Message edited by: SilverSpoon ]

10-04-2005, 03:41 AM	#19 (permalink)
Paul Guest Posts: n/a	Anybody know an elaborite site that has good detail of every marvel comic superhero's backstory? I'd love to read more on these villians.