A Good Band from Canada? OMG! WTF? LOL

[Captain Beefheart]

We're trapped in the belly of this horrible machine, and the machine is bleeding to death

The sun has fallen down
and the billboards are all leering
and the flags are all dead at the top of their poles

There's absolutely no way pretentious music could come out of Canada, bidding Rush aside. Scottish, nordics was my first reaction when I heard them. Maybe it's all a big lie!

That's right, I still remember the old audiogalaxy days when a friend of mine suggested "The Dead Flag Blues" by Godspeed You Black Emperor. At the time I was pretty much into "proggresive" music and the like but was getting pretty tired of everyone ripping on either Genesis, Floyd or King Crimson. And then it struck me when I heard GY!BE, they totally did something innovative that had sum roots in what was done before, but still remained very interesting to the ear(in both concepts and music itself).

So few bands are truly "progressive" that is, trying something new, musically. If people thought of GY!BE when they heard the word "progressive" it wouldn't have such a stigma. True progressive is moving forward and that is what keept it fresh. Kudos to the band for being bold.

Unfortunately they have unwittingly become torchbearers for the anti-globalisation movement which has created a groundswell of opposition to the way that Western culture is crushing individualism, community and art in recent years. Maybe you've heard about that, or find yourself to busy looking for reviews of last night's Buffy Episode. All I can say is whether one agrees or disagrees with the group's anti-capitalistic/corporate/democratic government stance is secondary; it's the music that matters, more than whatever political agenda. GY!BE's music is packaged along with unapologetically self-indulgence and intentionally cryptic (conceptually speaking) music, make not mistake about that. But its musical adventurousness that proves them to be intoxicating, especially compared to the staid pabulum currently occupying the airwaves today!.

Pretentious ****yness aside, this is NOT music for everyone. This is not elitism by any means, rather I'm aknowledging the fact that most people couldn't bear the thought of listening to an "EPIC" song(a tune that expands the 25 minute mark WHOA!). Shame on them for sure, they may be thinking they aren't missing much, BUT they're wrong. The sound of their music ranges from dark ambience to steadily driving, but it keeps the same atmospheric, movie-soundtrack quality throughout with alot of dynamic buildups(cresendos and such) + spoken-word samples which have become quite characteristic of their "style" which mixes strings, light horns, bells, guitars, drums and tons of other instruments combining in a very sweeping and somewhat dark, but always interesting motions and textures.. Their instrumental motifs while being quite simple in theory are VERY EFFECTIVE. Whatever the circumstances externally/internally of the listener is of minor importance here. The point is, it all WORKS. But go ahead, turn it up real loud. You'll be glad you did. After repeated listens, I always feel exhausted but invigorated. It's a terrific feeling. Kinda like sex!..

Enuff talk, Here are sum recommendations:

-The Dead Flag Blues
-Moya
-BBF3
-East Hastings
-9-15-00
-Storm
-Mother****er Reedemer(that shuold read f-u-c-k-er right there, it's a tune from their last album which is divided in TWO parts, clocks around 30 minutes or so)

I can't really add anymore, those songs are more than enough. I wouldn't call them the future of music, a lot of fans get a little enthusiastic. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ January 25, 2004, 04:18 PM: Message edited by: Captain Beefheart ]

our lady peace are good, and theyre from canada.

[darko.]

don't ever say that again. please.

i've had my fill of prog rock. i think im just gonna listen to the beach boys for a while now.

GOOD GOOD GOOD GOOD VIBRATIONS GOO GOO GOOOD...

[Captain Beefheart]

Originally posted by Ste:
our lady peace are good, and theyre from canada.

No they aren't. Tell me 1 reedeming quality about them besides being a bunch of posterboy's. I shudder to think what the next frontier will be in the illustrious field of pretentious, style-obsessed ****witery.

i've had my fill of prog rock.

If I pissed in your mouth and told you it was wine, would you say it was delicious?

Perhaps another time we can discuss exactly what prog albums, if any, you've listened to. Until then, contribute something relevant to the thread ;)

[ January 29, 2004, 12:00 PM: Message edited by: Captain Beefheart ]

Originally posted by Captain Beefheart:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ste:
our lady peace are good, and theyre from canada.

No they aren't. Tell me 1 reedeming quality about them besides being a bunch of posterboy's. I shudder to think what the next frontier will be in the illustrious field of pretentious, style-obsessed ****witery.</font>[/quote]"Is Anybody Home", "One Man Army", "Innocent"

Three reedeming qualities.

[Captain Beefheart]

Name dropping songs isn't clever at all. Especially when I haven't heard them and couldn't careless to comment on them. OMG "Super Man's Dead" is like THE SHIZNIT. No it isn't. Or maybe you're on of those kikes that cuts himself when he listens to Nickelback.

I've heard a few OLP songs, and all of them sounded samey, nothing really jumps out at me as being great, they struck me across as being just another lame ass indie band drowned in a sea of mediocrety. About as "rock" as they get still seems to be less rock than when Stereophonics and The Darkness discovered how to use the distortion on their amps LMFAO.

Now do yourself a favor and listen to Godspeed. That's what the topic is about. And if you still haven't figured how to quee Emule, i'll gladly help. That is all [img]graemlins/bday.gif[/img]

[ January 29, 2004, 12:09 PM: Message edited by: Captain Beefheart ]

*shrug* You havn't botherd to hear the band, don't bother commenting on them.

...and I'll stick with Kazaa Lite and DC thankyou.

[ January 29, 2004, 12:19 PM: Message edited by: Foo ]

[Captain Beefheart]

I told you I've already heard the band, I don't need to OWN every album to figure out what they're about.

Now listen to GY!BE, you can quee the songs on Kazaa too, start with "BBF3", the opening dialogue/monologue by Blaise Bailey Finnegan about the decay of America's government, stating that America is a 3rd world country which is extremely interesting and accurate in theory, but most americans will probably tweek their eyes and close their ears in shame at his statements and heck do I even need to mention most people don't have the attention span to listen to an 18 minute song. Monologue Transcription

Godspeed in my opinion is one of the few bands that can add samples and spoken word passages, without trying to sound artsy-fartsy or political. This just adds to the cinematic-ness of their approach, because such passages might come off as lines of dialog, if they weren't so real. I mean if you can't get goosebumps at the outro *poem* then you don't have the slightest idea about creating "tension" through music, creating that atmospheric and dark yet always increasing in its sinister and angry aspect. The narrative combined with music manages to create an increasing paranoid, anxious, and angry atmosphere. There are some sections as well that are quite emotionally touching IMO

Not everyone is going to like their music, i'm aware of that, but I don't think you can be a particularly open minded person and not appreciate the magnitude of what they have done, nor a particularly open hearted human being and not appreciate the magnitude of their predicament.

That's all there is to say on the matter ;)

[ January 29, 2004, 12:58 PM: Message edited by: Captain Beefheart ]

Originally posted by Captain Beefheart:

I've heard a few OLP songs, and all of them sounded samey, nothing really jumps out at me as being great, they struck me across as being just another lame ass indie band drowned in a sea of mediocrety. About as "rock" as they get still seems to be less rock than when Stereophonics and The Darkness discovered how to use the distortion on their amps LMFAO.

are you one of those morons who can only listen to rock music if its loud enough and is approved by kerrang?

our lady peace are way above those so called 'lame ass (its ARSE you goddamn yanks) indie bands' as you so eloquently put it.

spiritual machines was a great album even if you cant appreciate it. perhaps they havent got the musical abilities of say, fleetwood mac, but they still make good songs.

i cant be bothered to argue any more, lets just agree to disagree.

What? You dig "Spiritual Machines" too?
I thought I was the only one ;)

[Captain Beefheart]

are you one of those morons who can only listen to rock music if its loud enough and is approved by kerrang?

Are u mentally challenged or haven't read any of my posts besides this one? How can a band that uses "synthz"- squarewaves tones(like, uh, synth-distorted guitar?) count as trying to be heavey just for the sake of it? GY!BE can be VERY heavy at times, the combination of guitars and classical strings works very well just listen to "BBF3", the middle motif after the long poem. Note like I said, you can't sing along to this stuff considering there are no lyrics in the first place. ;)

And you're wrong, Foo is the one that reads Kerrang, I generally don't care about others people opinions especially when I consider their education to be much lower than mine, I DO read Jazz Times/Downbeat and Jazzit. I like to keep it mostly gangsta.

A warning to the crews out there who think they're hot, if you're not original rockers you will get shot
down by the kids neglectin' your art, the stuff you did.
Eventually it get so bad puts you to bed
cause when the lightning flashes sweet electricity
all the world then stands revealed with the clarity of raw voltage, briefly we see and the hope is you'll be able to tell just what dope is ;)

[ January 29, 2004, 08:49 PM: Message edited by: Captain Beefheart ]

[Coprophagia]

i've got no idea what yous are on about, probably some stupid **** but i sure the darkness written in there and i think that there guitarist is fuking good and yes they would be able to use there amps

[Captain Beefheart]

Seeing as how your comment has jack freaking s-h-i-t to do with the intended content of this thread I probably shouldn't be responding, but I am intrigued as to why you would think he's a good guitarist, considering you probably can't tell the difference between mediocre and self-respectable. Unless you're one of those people who think all cluttered, sloppy blues based songs are greatness because you suck at listening to music, which is entirely probable.

As if we didn't already have enough festering turds floating in the freaking mire that is the modern pop music scene.

Oh, so it's not enough we already have such retrograde, kistch-rock "bands" like The Strokes, The White Stripes, The Hives, The Vines, and The what-freaking-evers unleashing their aural holocaust on a once proud and respected art form? Not "hip" anymore? Not ironic enough for you ehh?

[ January 30, 2004, 10:26 AM: Message edited by: Captain Beefheart ]

I sense some sarcasm in your original post Captain Beefheart. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

But, two other great bands that came out of Canada are Skinny Puppy and Front Line Assembly (FLa came out of Skinny Puppy - one of the memebers left and did his own thing). And, both bands helped influence the industrial scene back in the late 80s and early 90s (barring the innovative European bands during the same time).

[ January 30, 2004, 04:49 PM: Message edited by: Industriac ]

[Captain Beefheart]

You talkin' to me? You talkin' to me? You talkin' to me? Then who the hell else are you talkin' to? You talkin' to me? Well I'm the only one here. Who do you think you're talking to? Oh yeah? Huh? Ok.<--Deniro in "Taxi Driver" [in case you don't get the reference *sighs*] :D

Winterwolf better turn on the flood control, otherwise I'll be up to 1000 replies in no time with all the people going offtopic. And yes, I'm hitting the "Post New Reply" button just once. [img]graemlins/dunce.gif[/img]

I don't like Skinny Puppy(I actually thought they were GERMAN? Wait that's the other band I hate, what's their name...) and yes I've heard them and realize people like Manson, Trent, Rammstein. Pitchshifter have made a fortune ripping most of their motifs. Industrial muzak is not my thing tho, u already know that so it doesn't make sense to even attempt validating my opinion on that subject.

BTW, it's not worth mentioning I would love your opinion on this band(GY!BE). Also I was gonna PM you(but forgot), there's a cool file sharing prog. I got working called "Soulseek", u've probably heard about it, it's the best i've seen for music, very well organized and you get different chat rooms/groups in which you can share talk about just about every genre you can think off, including IDM! :D

[ January 30, 2004, 06:26 PM: Message edited by: Captain Beefheart ]

I hear Celine Dion is Canadian.. ;)

just realised that Barenaked Ladies are canadian.

[Coprophagia]

captain, your a dumb fuk, you think the darkness guitarist is sh!t, why??? i suppose your gonna call Zakk Wylde sh!t now to are you? your a dumb fuk who posts fuking **** up stating sh!t that either everyone knows about already or **** none cares and to make yourself look smart you gotta have your ****load of words, well your still a dumb **** to me

[darko.]

i ejaculate throughout the entire 29:02 of "Providence". every time. just one long stream of semen.

I've come to a very difficult conclusion.


Captain Beefheart, is in fact, a douche bag.

That's right, his posts are faggish..all he does is takes his opinions and tries to force people to agree with him, [ simply because he talks too much ]. So I've found it best to just read the first sentance of what he says, that's all he's trying to get across, the rest is him going off on how much he knows about the background of the music groups producers or how the bands relate with other bands, or why bands HE doesn't like...are trash...or...whatever the ****...

He's a worthless thread maker, and his posts are ****ty.

Yay for him.