Buffy - Page 3

**andrew r** · 12-04-2006, 04:08 PM

In a way yes. But didn't Spike say that blood was life? So if the heart stopped beating, life ended so to speak.

12-04-2006, 05:21 PM

I think that's a very good point about blood equalling life, which demonstrates that the show is within itself consistent in it's own definitions of life and death.

BlackWolf · 12-04-2006, 10:47 PM

I don't think that's really the case at all, the thing you gotta keep in mind is how long there have been slayers. The slayer history is steeped in tradition, and in ancient times they had no scientific way of verifying death, and they knew that "blood is life", like Andy and Spike said, so in there eyes once the blood stopped the slayer was dead and the next was called. In those times no one was gonna come back from that, it's not like they had CPR, and even now it's far from common. So it's not hard to believe that because tradition and lore, and quite possibly a lack of need, they never "updated" their definition of dead.

I think it's just an ancient, traditional, interpretation of death that met it's match in the modern world.

**andrew r** · 12-05-2006, 03:09 PM

There you go! Now why wasn't that said in the show in the first place? If it was I must have forgotten it.

12-05-2006, 03:54 PM

You are both making a great point about blood equalling life on the show.

**andrew r** · 12-08-2006, 03:29 PM

Thanks.

We do what we can.

03-01-2007, 10:05 AM

Principal Flutie was supposed to be a poor disciplinarian, but he did not tolerate cheek from pupils far less respond in like manner, in the way the supposedly stern Sneider did. Sneider would have been equally defenceless against a group of possessed thugs, just like he was against the dinosaur.

Isn't it interesting how many fictional monsters, like dragons for instance which were conceived of before the discovery of fossils, DO resemble dinosaurs? It's as though a fear of large reptiles is hardwired into human instinct, even though they no longer exist on the scale of 65 plus million years ago.

eadweard · 03-01-2007, 11:07 AM

I read once, in a book (THE DRAGONS OF EDEN, I think) by Carl Sagen, that it is a universal idea that when someone says "Shhh", it is understood to mean "QUIET -Don't make a noise." Africans, Asians, Europeans - and by extension, Americans - all use the same sound for the same reason. I think the reason (I read the book 20 years ago), had to do with Racial Memory and our common ancestry: we are brothers - and sisters - under the skin, with an innate trepidation of reptiles imbued in our core brain. "Shhh" is the sound a reptile makes: Beware!...

BlackWolf · 03-01-2007, 11:12 PM

@sarah_m_g_4_oscar: Could you please not post back to back like that? If you have more to add please use the edit button, thank you.

03-02-2007, 05:15 AM

The letter 'S' both looks and sounds like a snake (which coincidentally or not starts with an 's').

eadweard · 03-02-2007, 11:06 AM

And a vampire's canines protrude like a snake's fangs (I may be reaching now)!! "Ssssuck your blood!!"

**andrew r** · 03-02-2007, 02:50 PM

When I was younger, I thought vampires sucked blood through their teeth....

12-04-2006, 05:21 PM	#42 (permalink)
sarah_m_g_4_oscar Posts: n/a	I think that's a very good point about blood equalling life, which demonstrates that the show is within itself consistent in it's own definitions of life and death. Last edited by sarah_m_g_4_oscar : 12-05-2006 at 03:55 PM.

03-01-2007, 10:05 AM	#47 (permalink)
sarah_m_g_4_oscar Posts: n/a	Principal Flutie was supposed to be a poor disciplinarian, but he did not tolerate cheek from pupils far less respond in like manner, in the way the supposedly stern Sneider did. Sneider would have been equally defenceless against a group of possessed thugs, just like he was against the dinosaur. Isn't it interesting how many fictional monsters, like dragons for instance which were conceived of before the discovery of fossils, DO resemble dinosaurs? It's as though a fear of large reptiles is hardwired into human instinct, even though they no longer exist on the scale of 65 plus million years ago. Last edited by sarah_m_g_4_oscar : 03-02-2007 at 05:13 AM.

03-01-2007, 11:07 AM	#48 (permalink)
eadweard Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bristol, TN, USA Posts: 4,255 My Profile	I read once, in a book (THE DRAGONS OF EDEN, I think) by Carl Sagen, that it is a universal idea that when someone says "Shhh", it is understood to mean "QUIET -Don't make a noise." Africans, Asians, Europeans - and by extension, Americans - all use the same sound for the same reason. I think the reason (I read the book 20 years ago), had to do with Racial Memory and our common ancestry: we are brothers - and sisters - under the skin, with an innate trepidation of reptiles imbued in our core brain. "Shhh" is the sound a reptile makes: Beware!... Last edited by eadweard : 03-01-2007 at 11:13 AM.

03-02-2007, 05:15 AM	#50 (permalink)
sarah_m_g_4_oscar Posts: n/a	The letter 'S' both looks and sounds like a snake (which coincidentally or not starts with an 's'). Last edited by sarah_m_g_4_oscar : 03-02-2007 at 05:16 AM.

12-04-2006, 04:08 PM	#41 (permalink)
andrew r Moderator Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: England Posts: 31,548 My Profile	In a way yes. But didn't Spike say that blood was life? So if the heart stopped beating, life ended so to speak.

12-04-2006, 10:47 PM	#43 (permalink)
BlackWolf Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 28,119 My Profile	I don't think that's really the case at all, the thing you gotta keep in mind is how long there have been slayers. The slayer history is steeped in tradition, and in ancient times they had no scientific way of verifying death, and they knew that "blood is life", like Andy and Spike said, so in there eyes once the blood stopped the slayer was dead and the next was called. In those times no one was gonna come back from that, it's not like they had CPR, and even now it's far from common. So it's not hard to believe that because tradition and lore, and quite possibly a lack of need, they never "updated" their definition of dead. I think it's just an ancient, traditional, interpretation of death that met it's match in the modern world.

12-05-2006, 03:09 PM	#44 (permalink)
andrew r Moderator Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: England Posts: 31,548 My Profile	There you go! Now why wasn't that said in the show in the first place? If it was I must have forgotten it.

12-05-2006, 03:54 PM	#45 (permalink)
sarah_m_g_4_oscar Posts: n/a	You are both making a great point about blood equalling life on the show.

12-08-2006, 03:29 PM	#46 (permalink)
andrew r Moderator Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: England Posts: 31,548 My Profile	Thanks. We do what we can.

03-01-2007, 11:12 PM	#49 (permalink)
BlackWolf Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 28,119 My Profile	@sarah_m_g_4_oscar: Could you please not post back to back like that? If you have more to add please use the edit button, thank you.

03-02-2007, 11:06 AM	#51 (permalink)
eadweard Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bristol, TN, USA Posts: 4,255 My Profile	And a vampire's canines protrude like a snake's fangs (I may be reaching now)!! "Ssssuck your blood!!"

03-02-2007, 02:50 PM	#52 (permalink)
andrew r Moderator Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: England Posts: 31,548 My Profile	When I was younger, I thought vampires sucked blood through their teeth....

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