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Old 03-14-2007, 02:59 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Can you imagine if people actually referred to themseleves using their ethnicities.

So Kristin has to go around telling people she's Chinese, Dutch, Indonesian, Jamaican.

So really Kristin has to tell people she's European/Asian/Caribbean/Canadian whenever she refers to herself.

Donno anyone else who does that when referring to themselves, because personally I would hate to have to repeat I'm Caribbean/European/African/American whenever someone asks.

I don't think I've ever done it in my 23 years come to think of it... guess I'm not doing myself any realistic favors.

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Old 03-14-2007, 07:48 AM   #22 (permalink)
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And I'm Greek and Polish but I don't go around telling everyone about it unless they want an explanation for why my nose been so big
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Old 03-14-2007, 08:15 PM   #23 (permalink)
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"Also, KK should do herself some good realistc favour and start refer to herself as an european/asian/canadian."

my poor baby. I'M FILIPINO/CHINESE/SPANISH AND MY HUBBY IS DUTCH/SWISS/FRENCH/ENGLISH born in canada.

so he/she should introduce him/herself as:
HI, my name is____ i'm filipino, chinese, spanish, dutch, swiss, french, english. oh and i was born on the on the canadian westcoast but now moved to the prairie provinces. so i'm part vancouverite part priaire person too!

good lord!

i'm not sure where you're from, kkabitfan but canada is very mutlicultural. it's a very culturally diverse country. we are mostly immigrants or our families before us were so it's perfectly alright to call ourselves canadian than go through all our whole cutural lineage.

i'd rather kk represent herself as a canadian rather then be like those some young people these days that go, " yo! yo! azn pryde, man!!!" or "wazzup! wazzup! asian represent..i eat rice" or some nonsense like that.

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Old 03-14-2007, 08:58 PM   #24 (permalink)
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The writing of Lana Lang on Sv has't been at its best all the time. But at a certain point it is the actors responsibility as well. Making the best out of a character is about collaboration. The writers can't do it all for her. She HAD some sort of presence on screen before, but honestly most of her acting come across fake and overdone. Sometimes it seems like she's just trying to hard. And I don't understand the fuss about Partition. What is it that's "so important or what to truly believe in"?? From what I've heard it's nothing more or less than another cliche love story, and muslim people getting upset about it. And please stop try referring to KK as jamaican, native american, hispanic etc. just because you think she looks like this or that, or because you are jamaican, hispanic yourselves. Really, the girl is only dutch and chinese. Don't make it a bigger problem, than it already is....
 
Old 03-14-2007, 09:29 PM   #25 (permalink)
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No one referred to her as Hispanic or Native American. Why do you continue to making things up as you go?

Like everything you say is like made up facts that have no references whatsoever.

Kristin is part Jamaican from her grandmother from her mom's side. I'm not making it up, Kristin confirmed it herself and I have reference:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT6BMnd3fx0
 
Old 03-14-2007, 10:03 PM   #26 (permalink)
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You clearly missed my point makulit. Yes Kristin is a canadian! But without a dutch father and a chinese mother Kristin Kreuk would simply not have existed, so I guess chinese and dutch is somehow a part of her as well..! lol.. I bet when she learns to mix those or balance those three well, she'll become a happy individual. Trying to repress a part of who you are is just not healthy, it brings certain consequences... From what I've heard the last 8 years, Kristins mother is fully chinese, but born in Indonesia. I think that one is already discussed..
 
Old 03-14-2007, 10:33 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Now I have no idea what your talking about. Of course there a part of her, you cant suppress ethnicities and theres nothing to mix. Im 4 different ethnicities I never even think about them. What does it matter.

Partition is brought up because its a drama, which do a better job as showing acting skills (I have not seen the movie). Most times on TV shows the actress can not be themselves or alter the script in any way.

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Old 03-14-2007, 11:29 PM   #28 (permalink)
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You know what... What if this wasn't the case, and whenever someone asked or anything she would've just lifted her head, stood right up and said: hey! yes that's correct I'm half chinese and half dutch, and you know what I'm damn proud of it!What if everyone in this world would have just dared for once instead of hiding behind your.."I look white,I look this that so no no one can say I'm anything else", "I only think like.." open up your mind! or excuse yourself with "no no you see I'm born here so no one can say I'm anything else bla bla",and there would be no such things as racism, discrimination etc.Because everyone would've just stood up for WHO THEY ARE,appreciated their differences because of that and lived happily ever after.What if?! Don't lower yourself just because society tells you to shut it, don't be just one thing because the majority demands it when you were born, can be so many things and so much more. Why struggle so much to fit in?Imagine what the world could be like!
 
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Old 03-15-2007, 12:44 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Unfortunately stating your ethnicity wont make people appreciated or respect it. Its just something that isnt important to me. I dont know why its such a big deal for KK to do it, she has obviously stated her ethnicity since we all know it.

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Im beginning to agree, and there isnt nothing more the be said then has already been, which is why this is my last post on the topic.

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Old 03-15-2007, 11:11 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Now you have attacked me over and over filmgirl! NOW I have something to say to you: It's very easy in real life to just call a person an idiot, a troll, a this a that. whenever you don't understand or agree with that person, and you don't have something better to say like.. debating your own point. If you don't, then who's really right? Namecalling won't help you understand someone different from you any better, sorry. Open32 yes it will! Not stating it won't help people to get to know peoples differences. And when they don't even know about it, how can you expect them to learn from it, and then understand and respect it? That's why it's important. Yes she has, the problem is.. it's about how you state it. To know how to appreciate other peoples differences, you must first simply learn how to appreciate your own! When you love yourself, it's so much easier to love one another, right? That's why it should be important.
 
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You know what... What if this wasn't the case, and whenever someone asked or anything she would've just lifted her head, stood right up and said: hey! yes that's correct I'm half chinese and half dutch, and you know what I'm damn proud of it!What if everyone in this world would have just dared for once instead of hiding behind your.."I look white,I look this that so no no one can say I'm anything else", "I only think like.." open up your mind! or excuse yourself with "no no you see I'm born here so no one can say I'm anything else bla bla",and there would be no such things as racism, discrimination etc.Because everyone would've just stood up for WHO THEY ARE,appreciated their differences because of that and lived happily ever after.What if?! Don't lower yourself just because society tells you to shut it, don't be just one thing because the majority demands it when you were born, can be so many things and so much more. Why struggle so much to fit in?Imagine what the world could be like!
Wow, what world do you live in? A HUGE reason why there is racism and discrimination is because people are way too proud of what ethnicity they are. It's overly optimistic of you to believe that everyone should just appreciate their differences and the evils of racism will just disappear. This is just going way off topic though.

I have no idea why you're targeting Kristin as the problem. Can you please share with everyone how you know she's trying to 'repress' a part of herself? What information do you have that we don't? If it's just an assumption on your part, like the eating disorder thing, then your points are just that....assumptions and opinions. It is isn't fact, so don't try to speak as if they are.

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Yes she has, the problem is.. it's about how you state it. To know how to appreciate other peoples differences, you must first simply learn how to appreciate your own! When you love yourself, it's so much easier to love one another, right? That's why it should be important.
Hmm...check this. It's from her high school year book.

It seems you're just as passionate as she is about accepting others for who they are and what not. I don't think going after Kristin in her forum is the answer. Especially since, she isn't a problem to begin with. Go after something bigger instead of debating with us if you feel that strongly about it.

oh and makulit, loved your post! the last part was hilarious.
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Old 03-15-2007, 04:33 PM   #33 (permalink)
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You know..when I have a conversation with people I don't tend to scream proof! proof! troll! troll! etc. whenever I disagree.I chose to listen!I try to understand and respect other peoples thoughts and views.Because that will only make me a bigger person than I already am, and I will grow on it. Also when I state something I don't expect people to accept and respect me for it unless I actually stick to what I stated regardless, and practice what I preach.I won't ask people to respect their differences, if I myself have nothing to offer to such a statement in real life. How on earth can you be too much proud of who you are? They are not the problem, it's those who scream shut up you're nothing, when I walk around with my head high and shout I'm beautiful just the way I am. You should be proud of yourself as much as you want. It's those who won't let you who create racism. It's simply too little love in the world because so many don't understand that true love starts within yourself.
 
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You know..when I have a conversation with people I don't tend to scream proof! proof! troll! troll! etc. whenever I disagree.I chose to listen!I try to understand and respect other peoples thoughts and views.Because that will only make me a bigger person than I already am, and I will grow on it. Also when I state something I don't expect people to accept and respect me for it unless I actually stick to what I stated regardless, and practice what I preach.I won't ask people to respect their differences, if I myself have nothing to offer to such a statement in real life. How on earth can you be too much proud of who you are? They are not the problem, it's those who scream shut up you're nothing, when I walk around with my head high and shout I'm beautiful just the way I am. You should be proud of yourself as much as you want. It's those who won't let you who create racism. It's simply too little love in the world because so many don't understand that true love starts within yourself.
This is coming from a person who keeps excusing someone they don't know, on things that aren't even close to factual.

Maybe when you start respecting others, people will show you the same respect.

Nothing that anyone has said to you have you taken in and stop to think for once that what you're saying is totally wrong.

This is why I'll continue calling you a troll, since you're just here to push people's buttons who like Kristin with your rants about how Kristin needs to do this and that, due whatever reason you think in your head that's there. Not because they're actually there for others to see.

I know you're angel2 from IMDB just by your posts and the format of your typing.

You're just being way nicer and cleaner with your posts since unlike IMDB we have mods here who keep an eye on this board and can close/edit/ban you a lot sooner than IMDB managed to do.

I don't understand why someone who dislikes Kristin spends so much time incorrectly analyzing her then bringing it to her fans who like her to read.

Do you expect us to agree with your statements that are beyond realistic and hold no water whatsoever?

You talk about Kristin and us being unhappy with ourselves, but one really has to question someone who posted on another board to the point of getting banned due to completely spamming the forum with senseless rants about someone they don't know to then continue it on, on to another board.

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Old 03-15-2007, 07:05 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Okay I am putting my huge-butt mod foot down right now. kkabitfan, filmgirl: take it to pm if you are going to continue to have a problem with one another, or I am going to close this thread.

Stay on topic.

I've got nothing more to say on this debate because I'm not keen on beating a dead horse. However, I won't close the topic just because someone has a differing opinion on kk than others. As long as we're keeping it clean and avoiding derogatory remarks and insults, the topic stays open.

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Old 03-15-2007, 08:10 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I haven't left the topic once. I don't know if you noticed but there's only one person here who runs personal attack posts. I responded to it once, from here on I'm simply going to ignore that person. So there shouldn't be any problem. However there's another problem, named KK, along with all her other problems ofcourse. Really if there's nothing wrong, why would she even give herself such a hard time giving people reasons to think so. Not ever have I ever heard about a tv show where one simple person/character alone is hated and disliked so badly for 7 years..! One would be brainwashed and or retarded if one didn't asked themselves, WHY? Even if you're a fan! Not ever have I ever experienced a kind of hypocrite and fake behaviour like that. Not in my own life or through media ever. Right now I'd say Paris Hilton is a healthier person! At least that girl is who she is, isn't a bit afraid to show it, and stands for it all. lol
 
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However there's another problem, named KK, along with all her other problems ofcourse.
If you're not a fan of Kristin, and you consider her to be a "problem", then gtfo of our forum. You're getting one step closer to flaming this board and I have no PROBLEM at all with contacting a higher-up mod to keep an eye on you.

You may disagree with her acting and you may disagree with hypocritical statements of hers, but once you start degrading and attacking her person you're no longer welcome here. Keep it clean and keep it intelligent, or take it somewhere else.
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Old 03-15-2007, 09:05 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Eve ...
this thread is completely off topic, but doesn't deserve to be closed. I don't know, it's just my opinion and nothing more.
But the behavior of this girl seems more of a jalousie boy who wanted to hang out with Kristin and she did not accept. Therefore she became mad and started to post these things here in the forum.

Let me analyze somethings:

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That people who chose to become famous, celebrities or whatever you wanna call it are the ones who wants the attention more than anyone or anything.
Sorry, but this is not true.
Ok, depends on who you are talking about.
Jim Carey for example is the same person in the real life and behind cameras. He said himself in an interview that loves getting the attention of the other people when he goes in famous places. But speaking in interviews, Kristin always says that the fact of being an actress today was a consequence and not a fact to opt for that, exactly because she hates the cameras.

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I bet when she learns to mix those or balance those three well, she'll become a happy individual.
Did any one say she's unhappy? I don't think so.
To me, Kristin is the best result of dutch and chinese parents. There's no doubt Kristin is a beautifully perfect actress when the main conversation is her roots. And she knows that.

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To know how to appreciate other peoples differences, you must first simply learn how to appreciate your own!
This is a true statement, but seems that is what you have done in your replies. In other words, you don't want to do this, but is doing without knowing same as you did here:

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See?
Did you do that when you directed all your replies talking to the members about Kristin?

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I think you are traveling in your thoughts when you say things like this.
Look: different actresses, different thoughts.
Kristin never was afraid in saying who she really is. You won't find this in any interviews realised by her.
Just a question: what do you really know about Kristin Kreuk? Did you ever read something about her or you just heard in any places what the fans talk about her?
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When KK acts fake and behaves like a hypocrite, then YES she has a problem. And doing so it becomes a problem for her fans as well. So yes right now I consider her a problem. For 8 years ago, apparently not, considering I didn't know much about her, and all her problems. I can't keep anything intelligent or clean as long as she doesn't give me any reason to. When she decides to step it up, to bring something understandable and positive to the world maybe people including myself, the fans and the haters will understand her better, and whatever problem of hers will be solved. Right now I actually consider myself her only actual fan. Considering I'm the only one who dare to speak up about her. Even though it's negative, I probably will be the only one helping her in the end. Pretending everything is fine when it's really not helps no one!
 
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I really cant even understand the point your trying to make. But it seems like where going back and forth about the same things that have already been said.

If it goes off topic or turn into attacks against people the thread will get locked.
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