Kreuk's acting performance VS Welling's

As cute as she can be, Kreuk hasn't really impressed me with her acting skills. For a while I actually considered most of the performances in that show rather average, but Welling has managed to draw my attention. His earlier transformations were accomplished nicely, but the one where he had to play Lionel was quite amazing, I think. Kreuk had a few chances to put on a show, but I don't think she has managed quite well. She can certainly get better with more experience and training, but it's happening a bit too slow. Anyone disagrees with my appraisal of Welling's performance? Do you think it is fare to compare Kreuk and Welling? They both sarted acting almost at the same time.

[ March 16, 2005, 11:28 AM: Message edited by: Sky ]

[Disguy23]

i just can't compare those two with one another...

i agree that tom DEFINITELY has stepped up. there are instances where he's slipping but he's usually on point. yes, the episode Transference, where he switched bodies with lionel, just an impeccable performance.

kristin has also improved a whole lot from the beginning. i don't know how many of the people here know SV eps by their names but in the episode Visage (season 2), the end scene was just amazing. she's an awesome cryer. whenever she turns naughty/sedutive, she always gives a kick ass performance. when you play lana, essentially a character that is laid back, emotional, and not written well at all....there really isn't much you can do. i honestly think kristin spins that **** into gold. i think her best OOC-character is Isobel. i LOVE me some kristin when she becomes isobel. she makes the transition from lana to isobel so obvious. i was just looking at the screencaps of kristin smiling, and i could easily point out which one is lana and which one is isobel. i'm obviously biased with my opinion because i can't do anyting about it but hey...i don't care. kristin rocks.

when you put these two together though....daaaamn. crazy chemistry.

[ March 16, 2005, 01:24 PM: Message edited by: Disguy23 ]

um actually welling started first.. welling was doing guest roles on tv shows before 2000 so he acted first. i forgot the name of the show was it... it was those stupid show sliike will and grace i forgot the name but welling was acting befor eher in guest roles on this show so was same jones the III, he used to do shows like nypd blue i think etc... and stuff around the same time as kristin so i say same and her started at the same time not not him thats why tom has more experience, its not like he had natural talent like franky muneize and wa sjust picked for a movie.. he worke dhis butt before thos etwo..

[Disguy23]

the show was called 'judging amy'

Judging Amy, several episode in 1999. So, he had one year of work in 1999, nothing in 2000, while she had a year in 2000. She is much younger though, so that plays a big role too. She doesn't look like she had much real-life experience outside of school or work. She is almost like a doll that limits her. I don't know though if Welling did anything besides modelling before he started acting.

[Val]

Originally posted by Disguy23:
when you put these two together though....daaaamn. crazy chemistry.

Don´t worry Disguy.
This is an easy job for Da Alchemist. :D
Where is he?

Let's be honest. They're pretty faces.

they both suck...Michael Rosenbaum is the real actor on that show. [img]graemlins/upside.gif[/img]

[Val]

Are you right RAbBiT ??? [img]graemlins/sly.gif[/img]

I like very much of the Alisson Mack, despite Lex is doing a beautiful interpretation. But without quarrel, the star of the show is the proper Kristin.

[evelyn]

Mike is the best actor, I'd have to agree on that. Tom is terrible sometimes with his lines as Clark, especially in the really sincere scenes, but it's probably a lot to do with the writing. Kristin is pretty convincing as Lana for me, but then again, some of her lines suck like Clark's. I still think that Kreuk is better than Welling though.

I really think that Kristin is doin' fairly good up to now, considering the /flaws/ of her character sometimes, sort of, and her admittedly still short experience as an actress. She really proves in Smallville her being talented and full of potential for the future.

Still, the real best acting in Smallville is delivered by Rosenbaum and Glover, IMHO. These 2 are already excellent actors! Plus their parts are obviously the most interesting of the whole show, being more ambiguous than the others and all, you know...
I especially like John very much, and am pretty much looking forward to see him in person in Paris next month!! Bond to be a neat occasion... [img]graemlins/thumbs.gif[/img]

[SultanOfSix]

gone...

Not quite surprisingly considering those guys had their share of exposure in front of camera. I take quality of their performance for granted; even though it's not excellent, but considering the quality of the script they are good. What I am surprised to hear is people saying that Kreuk is doing a great job and blaming solely the writers. I've seen her in other roles, it's definitely her issue and even with Isabelle - she was trying too hard, I think. Purely smoke and mirrors and no context. Same thing was with Welling's first tranformations, but the Transference was really great, I was so pleasantly surprised after all their superficial play to heighten sexual-appeal.

Anyway, I was wondering what suggestions, if any, would you offer to Kreuk and Welling that you think could improve their acts? How about career moves?

[ March 16, 2005, 11:33 PM: Message edited by: Sky ]

Any interview I've ever read or seen where the question is posed of an actor/actress: What type of role would you rather play? The answer is always the vixen, rogue, renegade, s#ut, drunk, or bad seed and NEVER the straight good girl or good guy. Actors covet these character flawed roles because they are fun to play. And as viewers, we always find the dark side characters more interesting, in part because goodie goodie types are kinda unrealistic in most people's experience.

Thus KK and TW do not have much room for movement in the roles of lana and clark. I think they do just fine for what the characters call for. Like Rita said, it does seem TW could make his case better than staring wordlessly in those "moment of reckoning" scenes with KK, but maybe that's what the writers want.

Anyway its no accident that both TW and KK show much better acting skills when he goes red kryptonite or Lionel in Transference and she goes Isabel, like Disguy said. They are MOTIVATED because those characters are so fun to play. Until Isabel, we only saw KK in a naughty variation thrice... in Nicodemus, Magnetic and the opening scene in Scare earlier this season. KK was GREAT all three times. [img]graemlins/yummy.gif[/img]

In fairness, MR and JG have a leg up because their characters are already on the darkside... conniving with hidden agendas.

Truly I was disappointed with KK's performance in Earthsea . This was a chance to show off her acting chops with a quality actress on the set (Rosselini), but her Tenar was uninspired. As one critic put it: "It was as if Ms. Kreuk 'mailed in' the performance from homeroom." I KNOW Kristin can do better. Hopefully, she'll prove it in Partition [img]graemlins/upside.gif[/img]

As for TW, I haven't seen him in anything outside of SMV. Did neone see him in cheaper by the dozen a year ago? Was he any good in that?
Regarding career moves, I don't think either one will take any serious steps until SMV has run its course. [img]graemlins/shake.gif[/img]

[Disguy23]

he only had a few short scenes in that movie. other than speaking, he was either laughing or being pissy.

i've missed most of this season so i can't say. but i liked the nuanced facial expressions and figity hand and body movements she did in the first two seasons.

directors play a big, big part too.
example....david goyer good writer, lousy director and the reason blade 3 sucked bad.

Originally posted by idiotsrt-4:
david goyer good writer, lousy director and the reason blade 3 sucked bad.

i've come to think that the directors save goyer's ass more than we realize. and good casting too. which i sure damn hope is the case with batman begins.
watch blade 2 with the commentary. the directing and cinematography, is the absolute saving grace for crow 2.

DC is letting hims write and direct The Flash...could turn out messy.

When it comes to writing and directing right now, Singer is the man. I am excited for the superman movie. and i wish to goodness marvel would wait and he would come back to x men.

[ March 17, 2005, 02:06 PM: Message edited by: Da Alchemist ]

he was the only one i could think of off the top of my head really.

but you can't deny that it really changed how comic movies are viewed. particularly the first blade movie.

and too maybe the directors are content with just how she looks in a scene than how she comes across.

i thought that was weird singer would do another comic movie instead of usual ones. no pun intended

aw hell what do i know.....

[Val]

I think I will be against all of you. [img]graemlins/evil.gif[/img]
First, no doubts that the star of the series is the proper Kristin. I don´t know, but sometimes Tom seems that is interpreting a nerd! But this is not the case. The case is that the personage Clark Kent is really a nerd! Let´s change the roles: Michael Rosenbaum interprets Clark Kent and Welling interprets Lex Luthor. It´s seems weird, but Tom would dress beautiful clothes and would be an intellectual while Mike would be the proper poor boy of the farm speaking calmly. Understand you, is an interpretation question. In accordance with much here, Rosenbaum is the best actor interpreting Lex Luthor at the same time that if Tom interpreted Lex, would be best.
AGREEEEEEED ???

Originally posted by Jwoodstock:
Any interview I've ever read or seen where the question is posed of an actor/actress: What type of role would you rather play? The answer is always the vixen, rogue, renegade, s#ut, drunk, or bad seed and NEVER the straight good girl or good guy. Actors covet these character flawed roles because they are fun to play. And as viewers, we always find the dark side characters more interesting, in part because goodie goodie types are kinda unrealistic in most people's experience.

Thus KK and TW do not have much room for movement in the roles of lana and clark. I

Good characters are not written, not unless it is a novel. Rarely script writers leave even the slightest hints for the actors on what a character suppose to be like. Directors might provide suggestions to the actors but, in the end, the final product belongs to the actor. Sure, it's easier to work with vilains, but there are no boring characters, only actors who make poor choices.

[ March 18, 2005, 12:44 AM: Message edited by: Sky ]