Love's Love Chain

**andrew r** · 12-17-2003, 05:32 PM

Has anyone been able to see this? I only caught half of the show, but the impression that I got from the people who voiced their opions abouts Love's love life, was that she was a ''love them and leave'' them type of woman. What's everyone else's opinon on this?

Personally, I've not seen her as this. Even though she does sem to have short lived relationships, a possible reason for this is due to the intense media interest.

12-17-2003, 05:58 PM

I think, most of the guys she dates, wan´t to fast to much from her, you know what i mean.
And i think Jennifer is not that type of woman who´s doing that..., so it don´t work for her, and that´s it. And in the public so it looks she´s one of those typ woman, but i´m sure she´s not.

i love love · 12-17-2003, 07:41 PM

No one would have a clue what any of her boyfriend's intentions would ever be. How would they? Nonsense.

The show was complete trash. The worst show ever shown about Love yet. They just gathered up all the rumors and put them in a half hour. Each one of these Love Chains episodes have been completely sick.

**andrew r** · 12-18-2003, 04:02 PM

I agree it is sick. I mean this is a refelction of what our appetite for celebrity has become. I'm not an obessive, I'm not really that bothered who Love dates, and for how long. The only thing that I'd like is for her to be happy in those relationships. If she isn't, then she'll end them.

12-18-2003, 05:30 PM

You guys are acting as if you know her.

Maybe she IS a "love 'em and leave 'em" type of girl.

She could be a flighty ditz who can't make up her mind, too.

Or maybe they do want too much too fast, and they leave her once she gives it to them.

It's also possible she's a needy, smothering control-freak and the guys can only take so much of her crap before they have to launch her.

Then again, maybe she's a perfectly sweet girl who just makes bad choices in men. Seeing as how she's hot and in her 20's, that's certainly very likely ;)

The truth is, she's had a few long relationships, and many short ones. It's not uncommon. Like Chris Rock says, guys have been offering her (women) **** since she was 13. Do you really think she's gonna say "no" every time?

Without her holding a press conference to talk about the guys she's been with, with one hand on the bible and Jesus holding the other, there's no way to really know what kind of girlfriend material she actually is.

[ December 18, 2003, 05:19 PM: Message edited by: Lemmiwinks ]

12-18-2003, 05:58 PM

When did Chris Rock say this about her?

12-18-2003, 07:17 PM

He said that about women in general, not her specifically.

12-18-2003, 07:47 PM

Oh. I thought it might of been part of a comedy bit he did once.

i love love · 12-19-2003, 12:03 AM

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You guys are acting as if you know her.

Double edged Lemmi. You don't know her, I don't know her. None of us know her, none of us ever will. This easily includes a TV network that airs shows like Love Chain and E! True Hollywood Stories. If you believe these shows then make sure and pick up the latest Star or National Enquirer. It's money they're making, not truth they're spreading.

Being "hot" is no barometer for "sweet".

The silly Chris Rock remark is humor. Nothing more. It's his job. I love Chris Rock's stage show. He's just a comic projecting from a stage. Hopefully moms and dads don't pass along Rock's words of wisdom to their young. [img]tongue.gif[/img] No offense meant whatsoever Lemmi.

She's never had any long relationship yet. True, in a teenage eye such as Love (back then) those may have felt like long relationships. They were all fleetingly short. It's all neither here nor there though.

Maybe someday she'll find her soulmate. We all search for that.

Captain Beefheart · 12-19-2003, 10:30 PM

This has been overly discussed but i'll give it another twist.

Love is a combination of different things. All of which lead you to believe that your life is truly better because they are a part of it even though you'd be fine on your own. It is a feeling of peace and genuine affection. To realize that you care enough about someone that you want to die before them so you don't have to deal with the loss. A feeling that involves every single emotion on the spectrum of human possibility. They piss you off more than anyone else does because you expect so much or you are so similar even though your interests may vary. It is both a contradiction and a simile.

While I don't know Jenn personally and don't feel adept to even call the shots, from what I've gathered on general celebrity experiences is that much of them don't really last *that* long, unless you're dating someone *outside* the industry. Most of the celebrity dating is done through your "agents", an agent contacts the other and things happen(look at Mandy Moore and the tennis douche that's how it all started). In the crazy ass world that is Hollyweird, things like this aren't meant to last just based on the circumstances. ;)

Maybe she hasn't found "TRUE LOVE". "Love" in the form of holding hands, sayign cliches like "she/he completes me" or "she/he makes me feel so good", and spending hundreds on meaningless merchandise is just pretentious bull**** young people go through many years before they really do fall in love.

Being in love means being able wade through the ****-soaked sewers of life with a person and loving every minute of it, and never feeling the desire to leave them. Being in love is like feeling the emotion of love to it's absolute extremes, to the point where it can become instinct to put that person's needs before your own. My opinions: if you can consider leaving a person, you aren't in love. If you get a divorce from someone, then you were never in love with them. If you could consider cheating on someone, then you aren't in love with them. In all those instances, the person just felt affection for the other, but not enough to be in love with them.

That's just my opinion tho I could be wrong. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ January 30, 2004, 07:27 PM: Message edited by: Captain Beefheart ]

i love love · 12-19-2003, 11:07 PM

Well in my personal experience love is certainly not that easily classified. My experience. People fall in love, people fall out of love. Sometimes it's for life, sometimes it's not.

Ask most people who have been in love or are in love; and most will tell you they wouldn't trade it for anything. Even if it ends poorly. Sure some bitter ends are not nice. But overall love is worth the pain. I have never looked back at my prior loves with anything other than beautiful memories and feelings. I'm still deeply in love with the first girl I fell in love with back in my high school days. And that was a looooooong time ago. Love is a strange emotion. And, by far, the best emotion on the planet.

Whether a star is hooked up by an agent or by a friend matters not. Relationships are not created by an agent. Nor by a friend. They are generated by two people. Love only takes two.

Captain Beefheart · 12-19-2003, 11:31 PM

What is it when you see a picture of a girl about your age(and happens to be a model lets say) and you think she is the most stunning girl you have ever seen, and you'd do anything and i mean anything to make her happy?

Don't sweat it. I know how annoying it is when 14-year-olds whine about how they're big love left them only to make out with some dweeb 5 minutes later. Girls come to you nowadays. It's crazy, I know, but ya gotta bear with it. It's not the 50's anymore. If you wait too long I'm gonna go after yo hoe, son. I'm just gonna walk on up to her and offer her a fish sandwich. Then I'm gonna grab a chunk of dabutt. Yeah. :D

Love is a fairly useless word. It is imprecise. It isn't specific.To be in love is to be within or soaked with the feeling of love. I think of LOVE as a spawn of the feeling. You can be inside and engulfed in the idea of love without the object of love being there.

About the agent I mean look at Mandy I don't know but that seems like a novelty, a temporal "crush" which will probably end soon. Then you have the fake one's like JLO and Ben don't get me started on that...

[ December 19, 2003, 09:43 PM: Message edited by: Captain Beefheart ]

i love love · 12-19-2003, 11:37 PM

Ooooh, it's far far from useless. How do you feel when someone says I LOVE YOU? I don't mean just a family member either. We all love our families.

The earthquake of emotions you feel when someone uses that simple little word. It's what makes my world go 'round. It's what makes life worth living. It doesn't matter what decade you were born in. Love is the same.

There is no precise description for love. It's simple. It's complicated. It's the best.

[ December 19, 2003, 10:11 PM: Message edited by: i love love ]

12-20-2003, 04:25 AM

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Originally posted by i love love:

Being "hot" is no barometer for "sweet".

True, but hot girls get asked out more than ugly ones. It's a fact. Besides, I never equated sweetness with hotness. I just said she's both, from what I can tell.

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The silly Chris Rock remark is humor. Nothing more. It's his job. I love Chris Rock's stage show. He's just a comic projecting from a stage. Hopefully moms and dads don't pass along Rock's words of wisdom to their young. [img]tongue.gif[/img] No offense meant whatsoever Lemmi.

None taken. However, humor is based on truth, and if you don't see the truth in the statement that girls are hit on all the time as soon as they hit puberty, then you're just being blind. Or deluding yourself.

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She's never had any long relationship yet. True, in a teenage eye such as Love (back then) those may have felt like long relationships. They were all fleetingly short. It's all neither here nor there though.

I dunno...2 or 3 two-year relationships sound pretty long to me. Maybe not compared to a 50 year marriage or something, but most people don't just date for 50 years. Like I said, she's had some longer relationships, and several shorter ones. It's natural.

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Originally posted by Captain Beefheart:
Girls come to you nowadays.

Not to me [img]graemlins/grumpy.gif[/img]

i love love · 12-20-2003, 05:29 AM

A two or three year relationship is just that, short. Both Carson and Will were less than two as I recall. The rest have lasted a lunchtime.

Humor <u>can</u> be derived from truth. Humor can also be hatched from insanity as well. That definitely goes both ways. Of course women are hit on from an early age. Men are built to hit on any moving object. I would never deny that. I agree with Rock's crude observation. I was simply suggesting that adults wouldn't use his crude observation when teaching their children about... dating etiquette. ;)

Man, I agree full-heartedly. No women come to me either. I suppose that may happen with pretty rich boys or rock stars. No offense thrown towards you either Beefheart. Women need not be agressive. Sure there is a small percentage that are. Small. Women are in control of the dating ritual. Whether men believe it is another matter.

[ December 20, 2003, 03:31 AM: Message edited by: i love love ]

12-17-2003, 05:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
andrew r Moderator Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: England Posts: 31,470 My Profile	Has anyone been able to see this? I only caught half of the show, but the impression that I got from the people who voiced their opions abouts Love's love life, was that she was a ''love them and leave'' them type of woman. What's everyone else's opinon on this? Personally, I've not seen her as this. Even though she does sem to have short lived relationships, a possible reason for this is due to the intense media interest.

12-17-2003, 05:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
Only4JLH Posts: n/a	I think, most of the guys she dates, wan´t to fast to much from her, you know what i mean. And i think Jennifer is not that type of woman who´s doing that..., so it don´t work for her, and that´s it. And in the public so it looks she´s one of those typ woman, but i´m sure she´s not.

12-17-2003, 07:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
i love love . Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: a black hole in a back pocket universe Posts: 4,797 My Profile	No one would have a clue what any of her boyfriend's intentions would ever be. How would they? Nonsense. The show was complete trash. The worst show ever shown about Love yet. They just gathered up all the rumors and put them in a half hour. Each one of these Love Chains episodes have been completely sick.

12-18-2003, 04:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
andrew r Moderator Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: England Posts: 31,470 My Profile	I agree it is sick. I mean this is a refelction of what our appetite for celebrity has become. I'm not an obessive, I'm not really that bothered who Love dates, and for how long. The only thing that I'd like is for her to be happy in those relationships. If she isn't, then she'll end them.

12-18-2003, 05:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
Lemmiwinks Posts: n/a	You guys are acting as if you know her. Maybe she IS a "love 'em and leave 'em" type of girl. She could be a flighty ditz who can't make up her mind, too. Or maybe they do want too much too fast, and they leave her once she gives it to them. It's also possible she's a needy, smothering control-freak and the guys can only take so much of her crap before they have to launch her. Then again, maybe she's a perfectly sweet girl who just makes bad choices in men. Seeing as how she's hot and in her 20's, that's certainly very likely ;) The truth is, she's had a few long relationships, and many short ones. It's not uncommon. Like Chris Rock says, guys have been offering her (women) **** since she was 13. Do you really think she's gonna say "no" every time? Without her holding a press conference to talk about the guys she's been with, with one hand on the bible and Jesus holding the other, there's no way to really know what kind of girlfriend material she actually is. [ December 18, 2003, 05:19 PM: Message edited by: Lemmiwinks ]

12-18-2003, 05:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
Xator Posts: n/a	When did Chris Rock say this about her?

12-18-2003, 07:17 PM	#7 (permalink)
Lemmiwinks Posts: n/a	He said that about women in general, not her specifically.

12-18-2003, 07:47 PM	#8 (permalink)
Xator Posts: n/a	Oh. I thought it might of been part of a comedy bit he did once.

12-19-2003, 10:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
Captain Beefheart Mu nótahu Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In a West End town, a dead end world Posts: 4,072 My Profile	This has been overly discussed but i'll give it another twist. Love is a combination of different things. All of which lead you to believe that your life is truly better because they are a part of it even though you'd be fine on your own. It is a feeling of peace and genuine affection. To realize that you care enough about someone that you want to die before them so you don't have to deal with the loss. A feeling that involves every single emotion on the spectrum of human possibility. They piss you off more than anyone else does because you expect so much or you are so similar even though your interests may vary. It is both a contradiction and a simile. While I don't know Jenn personally and don't feel adept to even call the shots, from what I've gathered on general celebrity experiences is that much of them don't really last that long, unless you're dating someone outside the industry. Most of the celebrity dating is done through your "agents", an agent contacts the other and things happen(look at Mandy Moore and the tennis douche that's how it all started). In the crazy ass world that is Hollyweird, things like this aren't meant to last just based on the circumstances. ;) Maybe she hasn't found "TRUE LOVE". "Love" in the form of holding hands, sayign cliches like "she/he completes me" or "she/he makes me feel so good", and spending hundreds on meaningless merchandise is just pretentious bull** young people go through many years before they really do fall in love. Being in love means being able wade through the **-soaked sewers of life with a person and loving every minute of it, and never feeling the desire to leave them. Being in love is like feeling the emotion of love to it's absolute extremes, to the point where it can become instinct to put that person's needs before your own. My opinions: if you can consider leaving a person, you aren't in love. If you get a divorce from someone, then you were never in love with them. If you could consider cheating on someone, then you aren't in love with them. In all those instances, the person just felt affection for the other, but not enough to be in love with them. That's just my opinion tho I could be wrong. [img]smile.gif[/img] [ January 30, 2004, 07:27 PM: Message edited by: Captain Beefheart ]

12-19-2003, 11:07 PM	#11 (permalink)
i love love . Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: a black hole in a back pocket universe Posts: 4,797 My Profile	Well in my personal experience love is certainly not that easily classified. My experience. People fall in love, people fall out of love. Sometimes it's for life, sometimes it's not. Ask most people who have been in love or are in love; and most will tell you they wouldn't trade it for anything. Even if it ends poorly. Sure some bitter ends are not nice. But overall love is worth the pain. I have never looked back at my prior loves with anything other than beautiful memories and feelings. I'm still deeply in love with the first girl I fell in love with back in my high school days. And that was a looooooong time ago. Love is a strange emotion. And, by far, the best emotion on the planet. Whether a star is hooked up by an agent or by a friend matters not. Relationships are not created by an agent. Nor by a friend. They are generated by two people. Love only takes two.

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12-19-2003, 11:31 PM	#12 (permalink)
Captain Beefheart Mu nótahu Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In a West End town, a dead end world Posts: 4,072 My Profile	What is it when you see a picture of a girl about your age(and happens to be a model lets say) and you think she is the most stunning girl you have ever seen, and you'd do anything and i mean anything to make her happy? Don't sweat it. I know how annoying it is when 14-year-olds whine about how they're big love left them only to make out with some dweeb 5 minutes later. Girls come to you nowadays. It's crazy, I know, but ya gotta bear with it. It's not the 50's anymore. If you wait too long I'm gonna go after yo hoe, son. I'm just gonna walk on up to her and offer her a fish sandwich. Then I'm gonna grab a chunk of dabutt. Yeah. :D Love is a fairly useless word. It is imprecise. It isn't specific.To be in love is to be within or soaked with the feeling of love. I think of LOVE as a spawn of the feeling. You can be inside and engulfed in the idea of love without the object of love being there. About the agent I mean look at Mandy I don't know but that seems like a novelty, a temporal "crush" which will probably end soon. Then you have the fake one's like JLO and Ben don't get me started on that... [ December 19, 2003, 09:43 PM: Message edited by: Captain Beefheart ]

12-19-2003, 11:37 PM	#13 (permalink)
i love love . Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: a black hole in a back pocket universe Posts: 4,797 My Profile	Ooooh, it's far far from useless. How do you feel when someone says I LOVE YOU? I don't mean just a family member either. We all love our families. The earthquake of emotions you feel when someone uses that simple little word. It's what makes my world go 'round. It's what makes life worth living. It doesn't matter what decade you were born in. Love is the same. There is no precise description for love. It's simple. It's complicated. It's the best. [ December 19, 2003, 10:11 PM: Message edited by: i love love ]

12-20-2003, 05:29 AM	#15 (permalink)
i love love . Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: a black hole in a back pocket universe Posts: 4,797 My Profile	A two or three year relationship is just that, short. Both Carson and Will were less than two as I recall. The rest have lasted a lunchtime. Humor <u>can</u> be derived from truth. Humor can also be hatched from insanity as well. That definitely goes both ways. Of course women are hit on from an early age. Men are built to hit on any moving object. I would never deny that. I agree with Rock's crude observation. I was simply suggesting that adults wouldn't use his crude observation when teaching their children about... dating etiquette. ;) Man, I agree full-heartedly. No women come to me either. I suppose that may happen with pretty rich boys or rock stars. No offense thrown towards you either Beefheart. Women need not be agressive. Sure there is a small percentage that are. Small. Women are in control of the dating ritual. Whether men believe it is another matter. [ December 20, 2003, 03:31 AM: Message edited by: i love love ]