True Lies 2

Keri · 07-14-2005, 05:40 AM

"True Lies"/"Usual Suspects" Sequel Bits
Posted: Thursday July 14th, 2005 3:49pm
Source: Assorted Sources
Author: Garth Franklin

You've got to give Tom Arnold props for consistency on his "True Lies 2" stories, though this time it sounds more reliable. Talking with Star Mag during "Happy Endings" promotions, the actor said "We all caught up - Jim [Cameron], Jamie [Lee Curtis], Eliza [Dushku], Bill [Paxton] and myself - to talk about True Lies 2 about a month ago in Cali. We're doing it. Definitely doing it. I'm revved. Unlike Terminator, which I think they're doing without Arnold, Jim's prepared to wait for the big guy. So am I. I've been waiting for ten years now - I'm sure I can hang on a few more months".

Source

Fingers crossed! [img]graemlins/thumbs.gif[/img]

[ July 14, 2005, 04:41 AM: Message edited by: Keri ]

07-14-2005, 06:05 AM

Hell Yeah, last thing I read about the sequel, Jamie was explaining that Eliza would have a more dominant role in the second film

Sarah
xXx

Faith_Fan · 07-14-2005, 06:12 AM

But it's contigent on Arnold wanting to act again. They aren't going to do it without him.

Arnold's term isn't up as Governor for another year and a half, and he'll be running for re-election for another 4 year term.

Considering how much political heat Arnie's taking right now with the teacher's union putting ads on every 10 seconds calling him every name imaginable, I can't see him taking off a few months as Governor to film a movie. He'd be roasted alive and wouldn't have any chance at re-election.

They're going to have to do it without Arnold.

[ July 14, 2005, 05:16 AM: Message edited by: Faith_Fan ]

Keri · 07-14-2005, 07:31 AM

I thought back in may Arnold confirmed he wanted to do the sequel to Variety?

Anyway, I think for this we are all prepared to wait!

Faith_Fan · 07-14-2005, 08:02 AM

http://www.thearnoldfans.com/news/ar...05/may/881.htm

The article back in May said Cameron was still interested in doing it, after Arnold's term as Governor is up. So that's at least 1 1/2 years away, or at the most 5 1/2 years. But then you don't know what Arnold's plans are post-Governor. Will he go back into acting, or pursue a higher political office? Or will he have pissed off all the liberals in Hollywood so much that he'll never work again?

That article suggests the script has been re-written, which is good since in the old True Lies 2 script, Dana was not in it. I'd love to see them just write out Arnold's character and have it star Eliza and Jamie. But...

The sans-Arnold T4 keeps getting pushed back and back and could end up being straight to DVD, so it looks like Arnold would need to be involved with TL2 to get a greenlight.

[ July 14, 2005, 07:07 AM: Message edited by: Faith_Fan ]

07-14-2005, 08:47 AM

I just saw this and it does sound promising altho like mentioned it will take a long time until we get to see it, if ever...

**eliza'snumber1fan** · 07-14-2005, 09:09 AM

It will be good if there was a True Lies 2, i dont think it needs Arnie, Eliza and Jamie Lee will carry the film on their own, perhaps Arnie could do a cameo at the beginning or something.

James Cameron has a good reputation in directing great films.

It would be nice to see Jamie Lee and Eliza working together again, isnt Jamie Lee, Eliza favourite actress?

Keri · 07-14-2005, 09:26 AM

Cheer up Fan_Fan, you sound soooo miserable about this news!

Might not be the Faith spin off but at least it's a glimmer of hope for us 'Eliza Fans'

:D

[ July 14, 2005, 08:26 AM: Message edited by: Keri ]

Charlie5x5 · 07-14-2005, 10:16 AM

Faith_Fan always pisses over everything, if she wasn't cynical about it i'd be helluva disappointed ;) [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Keri · 07-14-2005, 10:18 AM

Yes but today it is too hot for the pissing... it will just turn into smelly steam, and that is fun for no-one ;)

07-14-2005, 10:34 AM

we couldn't function without our very own pessimist [img]smile.gif[/img]

Aphrodite · 07-14-2005, 10:40 AM

I think she's just being realistic, guys.

I would love to see a True Lies 2 based on Jamie and Eliza, but I don't know how well the general public would react to that. They might just write it off as some lame sequel that couldn't get its big star back. I think it'd be far better without Arnold, but once again, the studios have to think of what would be most popular among the masses, since an action film kinda needs to make a lot of money thanks to production costs and all that.

I don't think anyone would want Eliza to have to carry a True Lies 2 all by herself and have it end up completely flopping at the box office because people wouldn't even give it a chance.

07-14-2005, 10:49 AM

If Eliza came out against Arnold's election bid so heavily, why would she want to work with him again? I can see him putting aside her rhetoric, maybe, but if she's as fired up against him as she sounds wouldn't she say no? Maybe money will talk as usual and override that?

Faith_Fan · 07-14-2005, 11:20 AM

Part of the reason this is bothering me is that I'm a supporter of Gov. Schwarzenegger, and I'd honestly rather have him get re-elected than Eliza get to do True Lies 2. The future of the state of California is far more important than a movie.

Arnold even doing a cameo in TL2 while campaigning for re-election would probably tank his numbers even farther. John & Ken on KFI (the most listened to talk radio show in the country) would rip Arnold to shreds if he did TL2.

Without Arnold, there is a very low chance it would happen, realistically. James Cameron can't bring in budgets under $150 Million for a movie. Keeping under $200 Million would probably be hard for him now considering inflation. I can't see Fox greenlighting a $150M - $200M movie starring Jamie, Eliza, Tom Arnold and Bill Paxton and no Arnold.

It's been 9 years of Tom Arnold ever chance he gets pimping True Lies 2, which is the only chance he has at ever getting a decent role again. There has got to have been 100 threads now on Fanhost with a quote from Tom talking about the movie happening and then nothing actually happens. TL2 was suppose to have come out in 2003.

[ July 14, 2005, 10:23 AM: Message edited by: Faith_Fan ]

**eliza'snumber1fan** · 07-14-2005, 11:39 AM

If there is a choice between T Lies 2 or Faith spin off, for my there is no debate it has to be the faith spin off, because if will be her own show.

Does anyone know what she is up to at the moment.

Faith_Fan · 07-14-2005, 12:20 PM

At this point with the Faith spinoff, the problem isn't whether or not Eliza and Joss both want to do it, the problem is whether or not any network wants it. Both of them probably are willing to do it now, but it's doubtful any network wants a Buffy spinoff. UPN doesn't. WB doesn't. Fox doesn't. There aren't any networks left.

Doing a high profile movie like TL2 would probably help the Faith spinoff's chances, convincing networks that Eliza is capable of headlining her own show.

If TL2 is directed by Cameron, it will take 9+ months to film, so Eliza couldn't take any tv series while she was doing that.

[ July 14, 2005, 11:23 AM: Message edited by: Faith_Fan ]

M@tt · 07-14-2005, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Clint_Eastwood_Zenk:
If Eliza came out against Arnold's election bid so heavily, why would she want to work with him again? I can see him putting aside her rhetoric, maybe, but if she's as fired up against him as she sounds wouldn't she say no? Maybe money will talk as usual and override that?

Eliza wasn't heavily against him. She's admitted that she didn't vote for him but that's only after being coaxed or being asked about it specifically.

We all know Eliza is a liberal but she's never pushed her own political agenda, even when she was campaigning for Rock the Vote.

Anyway, be it 2007, 2012 or whenever, any True Lies action is exciting to me. If we ever get to see it, it could potentially be the biggest role of Eliza's career. Bigger than Faith.

**andrew r** · 07-14-2005, 02:29 PM

That is a big 'if', since it's now 9 years and still no sequel. It would be nice to see a TL2 with a bigger role for Eliza, in that she's more action orientated. But it's only another rumour in a long list of ones related to this subject. So for now, I'm not getting excited about this, until something more concrete comes along.

M@tt · 07-14-2005, 04:06 PM

Found this article at Trufan-Eliza, it's from a few months back but it's new to me...

Tuesday, May 17, 2005:

Cameron Ready for True Lies 2?
Will TL2 be Arnold's big Comeback?

According to Variety.com, James Cameron's sequel to "True Lies" is NOT dead! So which True Lies preacher would be more happy to hear this news: Tom Arnold or ABKing?

Cameron - who is currently filming Battle Angel - has plans to direct True Lies 2 after Arnold finishes his term as Governor of California. True Lies 2 will be under his Lightstorm Entertainment and reimagine it more as 'a James Bond type film and not a pre terrorist action film', which after the events of September 11, Cameron decided he definitely didn't want to make.

Cameron is hoping that the full cast from the first film would return for the sequel. Arnold Schwarzenegger has already expressed interest apparently. There's no start date for the film as of yet.

07-14-2005, 04:26 PM

thanks for that [img]smile.gif[/img]

07-14-2005, 05:40 AM	#1 (permalink)
Keri Kiss My Pom Poms Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: UK Posts: 4,023 My Profile	"True Lies"/"Usual Suspects" Sequel Bits Posted: Thursday July 14th, 2005 3:49pm Source: Assorted Sources Author: Garth Franklin You've got to give Tom Arnold props for consistency on his "True Lies 2" stories, though this time it sounds more reliable. Talking with Star Mag during "Happy Endings" promotions, the actor said "We all caught up - Jim [Cameron], Jamie [Lee Curtis], Eliza [Dushku], Bill [Paxton] and myself - to talk about True Lies 2 about a month ago in Cali. We're doing it. Definitely doing it. I'm revved. Unlike Terminator, which I think they're doing without Arnold, Jim's prepared to wait for the big guy. So am I. I've been waiting for ten years now - I'm sure I can hang on a few more months". Source Fingers crossed! [img]graemlins/thumbs.gif[/img] [ July 14, 2005, 04:41 AM: Message edited by: Keri ]

07-14-2005, 06:05 AM	#2 (permalink)
FaithxElizaxTru Posts: n/a	Hell Yeah, last thing I read about the sequel, Jamie was explaining that Eliza would have a more dominant role in the second film Sarah xXx

07-14-2005, 06:12 AM	#3 (permalink)
Faith_Fan Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 611 My Profile	But it's contigent on Arnold wanting to act again. They aren't going to do it without him. Arnold's term isn't up as Governor for another year and a half, and he'll be running for re-election for another 4 year term. Considering how much political heat Arnie's taking right now with the teacher's union putting ads on every 10 seconds calling him every name imaginable, I can't see him taking off a few months as Governor to film a movie. He'd be roasted alive and wouldn't have any chance at re-election. They're going to have to do it without Arnold. [ July 14, 2005, 05:16 AM: Message edited by: Faith_Fan ]

07-14-2005, 07:31 AM	#4 (permalink)
Keri Kiss My Pom Poms Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: UK Posts: 4,023 My Profile	I thought back in may Arnold confirmed he wanted to do the sequel to Variety? Anyway, I think for this we are all prepared to wait!

07-14-2005, 08:02 AM	#5 (permalink)
Faith_Fan Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 611 My Profile	http://www.thearnoldfans.com/news/ar...05/may/881.htm The article back in May said Cameron was still interested in doing it, after Arnold's term as Governor is up. So that's at least 1 1/2 years away, or at the most 5 1/2 years. But then you don't know what Arnold's plans are post-Governor. Will he go back into acting, or pursue a higher political office? Or will he have pissed off all the liberals in Hollywood so much that he'll never work again? That article suggests the script has been re-written, which is good since in the old True Lies 2 script, Dana was not in it. I'd love to see them just write out Arnold's character and have it star Eliza and Jamie. But... The sans-Arnold T4 keeps getting pushed back and back and could end up being straight to DVD, so it looks like Arnold would need to be involved with TL2 to get a greenlight. [ July 14, 2005, 07:07 AM: Message edited by: Faith_Fan ]

07-14-2005, 08:47 AM	#6 (permalink)
Jonny Posts: n/a	I just saw this and it does sound promising altho like mentioned it will take a long time until we get to see it, if ever...

07-14-2005, 09:09 AM	#7 (permalink)
eliza'snumber1fan moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,161 My Profile	It will be good if there was a True Lies 2, i dont think it needs Arnie, Eliza and Jamie Lee will carry the film on their own, perhaps Arnie could do a cameo at the beginning or something. James Cameron has a good reputation in directing great films. It would be nice to see Jamie Lee and Eliza working together again, isnt Jamie Lee, Eliza favourite actress?

07-14-2005, 09:26 AM	#8 (permalink)
Keri Kiss My Pom Poms Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: UK Posts: 4,023 My Profile	Cheer up Fan_Fan, you sound soooo miserable about this news! Might not be the Faith spin off but at least it's a glimmer of hope for us 'Eliza Fans' :D [ July 14, 2005, 08:26 AM: Message edited by: Keri ]

07-14-2005, 10:16 AM	#9 (permalink)
Charlie5x5 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,172 My Profile	Faith_Fan always pisses over everything, if she wasn't cynical about it i'd be helluva disappointed ;) [img]tongue.gif[/img]

07-14-2005, 10:18 AM	#10 (permalink)
Keri Kiss My Pom Poms Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: UK Posts: 4,023 My Profile	Yes but today it is too hot for the pissing... it will just turn into smelly steam, and that is fun for no-one ;)

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07-14-2005, 10:34 AM	#11 (permalink)
Jonny Posts: n/a	we couldn't function without our very own pessimist [img]smile.gif[/img]

07-14-2005, 10:40 AM	#12 (permalink)
Aphrodite Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 553 My Profile	I think she's just being realistic, guys. I would love to see a True Lies 2 based on Jamie and Eliza, but I don't know how well the general public would react to that. They might just write it off as some lame sequel that couldn't get its big star back. I think it'd be far better without Arnold, but once again, the studios have to think of what would be most popular among the masses, since an action film kinda needs to make a lot of money thanks to production costs and all that. I don't think anyone would want Eliza to have to carry a True Lies 2 all by herself and have it end up completely flopping at the box office because people wouldn't even give it a chance.

07-14-2005, 10:49 AM	#13 (permalink)
C_Zman Posts: n/a	If Eliza came out against Arnold's election bid so heavily, why would she want to work with him again? I can see him putting aside her rhetoric, maybe, but if she's as fired up against him as she sounds wouldn't she say no? Maybe money will talk as usual and override that?

07-14-2005, 11:20 AM	#14 (permalink)
Faith_Fan Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 611 My Profile	Part of the reason this is bothering me is that I'm a supporter of Gov. Schwarzenegger, and I'd honestly rather have him get re-elected than Eliza get to do True Lies 2. The future of the state of California is far more important than a movie. Arnold even doing a cameo in TL2 while campaigning for re-election would probably tank his numbers even farther. John & Ken on KFI (the most listened to talk radio show in the country) would rip Arnold to shreds if he did TL2. Without Arnold, there is a very low chance it would happen, realistically. James Cameron can't bring in budgets under $150 Million for a movie. Keeping under $200 Million would probably be hard for him now considering inflation. I can't see Fox greenlighting a $150M - $200M movie starring Jamie, Eliza, Tom Arnold and Bill Paxton and no Arnold. It's been 9 years of Tom Arnold ever chance he gets pimping True Lies 2, which is the only chance he has at ever getting a decent role again. There has got to have been 100 threads now on Fanhost with a quote from Tom talking about the movie happening and then nothing actually happens. TL2 was suppose to have come out in 2003. [ July 14, 2005, 10:23 AM: Message edited by: Faith_Fan ]

07-14-2005, 11:39 AM	#15 (permalink)
eliza'snumber1fan moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,161 My Profile	If there is a choice between T Lies 2 or Faith spin off, for my there is no debate it has to be the faith spin off, because if will be her own show. Does anyone know what she is up to at the moment.

07-14-2005, 12:20 PM	#16 (permalink)
Faith_Fan Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 611 My Profile	At this point with the Faith spinoff, the problem isn't whether or not Eliza and Joss both want to do it, the problem is whether or not any network wants it. Both of them probably are willing to do it now, but it's doubtful any network wants a Buffy spinoff. UPN doesn't. WB doesn't. Fox doesn't. There aren't any networks left. Doing a high profile movie like TL2 would probably help the Faith spinoff's chances, convincing networks that Eliza is capable of headlining her own show. If TL2 is directed by Cameron, it will take 9+ months to film, so Eliza couldn't take any tv series while she was doing that. [ July 14, 2005, 11:23 AM: Message edited by: Faith_Fan ]

07-14-2005, 02:29 PM	#18 (permalink)
andrew r Moderator Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: England Posts: 31,470 My Profile	That is a big 'if', since it's now 9 years and still no sequel. It would be nice to see a TL2 with a bigger role for Eliza, in that she's more action orientated. But it's only another rumour in a long list of ones related to this subject. So for now, I'm not getting excited about this, until something more concrete comes along.

07-14-2005, 04:06 PM	#19 (permalink)
M@tt Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: UK Posts: 1,965 My Profile	Found this article at Trufan-Eliza, it's from a few months back but it's new to me... Tuesday, May 17, 2005: Cameron Ready for True Lies 2? Will TL2 be Arnold's big Comeback? According to Variety.com, James Cameron's sequel to "True Lies" is NOT dead! So which True Lies preacher would be more happy to hear this news: Tom Arnold or ABKing? Cameron - who is currently filming Battle Angel - has plans to direct True Lies 2 after Arnold finishes his term as Governor of California. True Lies 2 will be under his Lightstorm Entertainment and reimagine it more as 'a James Bond type film and not a pre terrorist action film', which after the events of September 11, Cameron decided he definitely didn't want to make. Cameron is hoping that the full cast from the first film would return for the sequel. Arnold Schwarzenegger has already expressed interest apparently. There's no start date for the film as of yet.

07-14-2005, 04:26 PM	#20 (permalink)
Jonny Posts: n/a	thanks for that [img]smile.gif[/img]