Chicks in the Military

[MissyO]

Well, what do you reckon?

[Ophelia]

If that's where they wanna be then more power to them, I suppose.

[Captain Beefheart]

I would advise them to watch the last scene in Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket, if they still planned on going through with it then I'd feel sad and understand they were probably sold either getting "beneficts" for serving the military or probably fooled by the illusory idea of serving one's country in vein.

[Jim Halpert]

I reckon they can be the most lethal combatants in the military. Get close enough, they'll let you play, but then they'll snap your neck so fast, you wouldn't feel a thing before it's too late.

[Captain Beefheart]

I made the woman in the first picture cry in Ghost Recon once and then she didn't play for like a month. According to my wildly popular but still hasn't caugh on "I can see it in his/her eyes" theory of people, that woman has a %100 russian soul. She's too beautifil to be wasted in the military, probably didn't learn to negotiate various stratified social groups, and end up being pre-engaged to a passive aggressive business major.

[Plastic Flute]

Its still a boys club. But I should have joined The Marines.

[open32]

The US military is about 20% woman. No reason they shouldn’t have the option to join.

Previous to about 5 years ago there roles in the military where pretty limited to supplies and support, its not like that anymore.

[wannabe]

The ship I served on was about 25% female. The narrow majority pulled their weight; there were quite a few that didn't want to be at sea and got pregnant just to get assigned shore duty. As I never heard from any of them again, and indeed didn't really know any of them with such loose morals, I don't know what happened. I would presume the few that were married kept the baby, and the rest probably had it killed at their earliest convenience/when the chances of having to go back to sea were minimal.

There was one I had a nominal friendship with who wanted desperately to be treated like one of the guys most of the time. She was a pretty one, with a sturdy frame, so she could work, but her chief was some jackass - don't know what his problem was, if he was just too sexist, or if he wanted something nice to look at - who kept her in the office instead of letting her do the grunt work she said she wanted to do. She was nice, one of the few girls I found attractive, but could still talk to her like a regular person.

There was also this officer who'd never been to sea before, and EVERYONE ELSE who had been to sea was telling me that when you go to sea, you take your hat when you're on deck off so you don't lose it. This is the day the boat is first going out, and it's MY first time out too, and I'm still "young", so I don't want to screw up and get in trouble. I get lucky and can be out on deck to watch what's going on, and this idiot woman insists we all have to wear our hats. And the CO never bothers to correct her (probably sleeping with her, but he had a taste for the enlisted girls that wanted an easier time on the boat, so no telling for sure), so we were the only boat in the entire navy that had to wear hats while at sea.

It was quite often one great big soap opera. Not a single woman on that boat was lonely if she didn't want to be. NOT ONE. Any of them could've had 2 or 3 guys at any given time. Even the frickin' CO was banging at least a dozen girls a month. I hate to sound crude, but it really boiled my oil the way the bastard treated the rest of us. I could tell stories about planned mutinies because of this guy. Not a soul on board didn't cheer when he left. Hope the bastard heard it too.

[Moshe..]

I think you should be happy to have that kind of sea and pirate adventure even if you have live with annoying women. I would just drink rum all day

[wannabe]

Some of us have more than a shred of self respect, too.

[edawg99]

They distract the male soldiers

[darko.]

Originally Posted by Jim Halpert

I reckon they can be the most lethal combatants in the military. Get close enough, they'll let you play, but then they'll snap your neck so fast, you wouldn't feel a thing before it's too late.

I reckon you've seen too many movies.

The best female soldier barely compares to the worst male one. They don't belong in the military. All woman in the military do is encourage poor behavior. These women, especially.

[Jocasta]

All woman in the military do is encourage poor behavior. These women, especially.

Poor ickle men, can't control their pee-pees. Don't you feel sorry for them.
If a woman can do the job as well as her male counterparts then why not. But she has to be as good.

[Gumby]

They make excellent human shields.

[Jocasta]

Originally Posted by edawg99

They distract the male soldiers

If I can quote Beefy;
HAHAHAHAHA

And as darko would say;
pathetic, always blaming someone else i hate them

[Captain Beefheart]

The sad thing is most of the dunces here probably think they are in better physical conditioning than most women in the military. I mean apart from prejudice, can anyone post a study that shows a de facto reduction in combat efficiency of units that have integrated women? Probably not.

As for women in combat roles, I'd oppose, but not because of fitness reasons but rather protecting them from rape when being captured.

[Jim Halpert]

Originally Posted by .darko

I reckon you've seen too many movies.

I reckon you've never met a Russian woman who has served in the military. That's fine though, you probably never touched a woman, either.

[Jocasta]

Originally Posted by Captain Beefheart

As for women in combat roles, I'd oppose, but not because of fitness reasons but rather protecting them from rape when being captured.

Of course men who've been captured can't be raped, abused, tortured, murdered, can they.
Abu Ghraib anyone?

[Captain Beefheart]

Is this an exposed values vs. actual beliefs discussion? There are things we do believe and then there are things we'd LIKE to believe: specifically about ourselves and our beliefs. HA!

Believe it or not, there are more fragile perceptions and conceptualizations, consequences of a woman getting raped and boiled alive after being captured than with a man getting beheaded. I guess as society we find men to be simply more "expendable". Perhaps you misunderstand that my main concern isn't so much women being in the military, but women being conscripted and put in the front lines. I know you're probably thinking I view woman as the weaker sex and it's not even about that, sometimes fighting is more about wits than brute strength.

And I don't believe in wars for starters. Just thought I'd make that clear.

[Jocasta]

there are more fragile perceptions and conceptualizations, consequences of a woman getting raped and boiled alive after being captured than with a man getting beheaded.

I'd have to conclude that that is a male perception.

Perhaps you misunderstand that my main concern isn't so much women being in the military, but women being conscripted and put in the front lines.

Perhaps you never mentioned that.

And conscription is something I'm uncomfortable with in general, for men and women... that's a mother's view.