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**Plastic Flute** · 05-20-2008, 09:16 PM

Whats the difference between Shallots and reg. onions and or chives ?

**MSFixR** · 05-20-2008, 10:00 PM

All belong to the Allium genus. Shallots are a relative of the onion, and tastes a bit like an onion but has a sweeter, milder flavor. Chives are the smallest species of the onion family Alliaceae, native to Europe, Asia and North America. They are referred to only in the plural, because they grow in clumps rather than as individual plants. Scallions, called a green onion, tend to be milder tasting than most onions and lack a fully developed bulb. All onions develope a stronger flavor when they are grown in hotter weather

The volatile oils that help to give Allium vegetables their distinctive flavors contain a class of organic molecules known as amino acid sulfoxides. Peeling, cutting or crushing an onion's tissue releases enzymes called allinases, which convert these molecules to sulfenic acids. The sulfenic acids, in turn, spontaneously rearrange to form syn-propanethial-S-oxide, the chemical that triggers the tears. They also condense to form odorous thiosulfinates, coincidentally evoking the pungent odor associated with chopping onions and eliciting the false accusation that it is the odor that causes the weepy eye. Incidentally, sulfenic acid in garlic takes a different chemical route, sparing the eyes. The formation of syn-propanethial-S-oxide peaks at about 30 seconds after mechanical damage to the onion and completes its cycle of chemical evolution over about five minutes.

Ophelia · 05-20-2008, 10:14 PM

OK, in lamens terms, an onion is an onion. You know what those look like.

A green onion looks like this
http://www.jeffsmeats.com/v-gonion.jpg
and correct me if I'm wrong Fixr but the shallots part would be considered the whiter part of the green onion, while the chives would be the greener part diced.

**MSFixR** · 05-21-2008, 06:05 AM

Chives (Allium schoenoprasum) and scallions (Allium fistulosum) are two slightly different species of allium.

**Jocasta** · 05-21-2008, 08:07 AM

Just to throw in some confusion, in England we don't use the term scallions we call them spring onions.

**Plastic Flute** · 05-21-2008, 05:26 PM

^ lol Now that I have discovered shallots I will never go back to to the reg yellow onion. Man its been cold here in NJ. I swear Tues I felt colder than any day this winter. Camon SPRING !!!

Ophelia · 05-21-2008, 06:04 PM

^^^Oh, that sucks.

Hey, never ditch the good ol yellow onion. It's a staple.

**Plastic Flute** · 05-21-2008, 06:06 PM

Im snubbing it.

Ophelia · 05-21-2008, 06:11 PM

snubber

**Plastic Flute** · 05-21-2008, 06:20 PM

Schtoop. Last nite I deamnt that i met you and you were a black women. lol

Ophelia · 05-21-2008, 06:49 PM

COOL.

I was yellin at the chilren thats why.

**MSFixR** · 05-21-2008, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plastic Flute

Schtoop. Last nite I deamnt that i met you and you were a black women. lol

If you've seen the pictures of her beautiful kids, you would know that is not the case.

Hey, did either of you prepare the French Onion soup in the LFMC cookbook?

**Plastic Flute** · 05-21-2008, 07:24 PM

NO, Hey TY I will ck it out. I have it handy yet never "used" it. I'm so dumb that way.
I think my dream was symbolic beacuse 2 of my favorite poets are black women.

**MSFixR** · 05-21-2008, 08:42 PM

Hey, I see you are still in Romania. They have good lettuce there.

(P.S. Check out the music in the On This Day (May 22) post. and I'll bet you never did listen to the Mahler piece.

)

**Plastic Flute** · 05-21-2008, 09:18 PM

youre right Ill go now P.

**Plastic Flute** · 05-21-2008, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSFixR

Hey, I see you are still in Romania. They have good lettuce there.

(P.S. Check out the music in the On This Day (May 22) post. and I'll bet you never did listen to the Mahler piece.

)

Do you want me back in Jersey?

**MSFixR** · 05-21-2008, 10:02 PM

Where ever you are the happiest.

**MissyO** · 05-21-2008, 10:48 PM

Can I be in Siberia?

Also, young Op has told us before that she's Irish Italian. I'm possibly the only one who remembers this because I'm partial to the mix.

**Plastic Flute** · 05-21-2008, 11:07 PM

kinda sad about the itailian part. but.

**Jocasta** · 05-22-2008, 02:30 AM

Same as darko, maybe they're related.

I'm still in Bunraku, it's fun here and they have good radishes.

05-20-2008, 09:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
Plastic Flute ICHiBAN HoOT Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 16,766 My Profile	Garden Whats the difference between Shallots and reg. onions and or chives ?

05-20-2008, 10:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
MSFixR Moderate Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dante's Inferno, Circle 5 Posts: 13,287 My Profile	Science Boy Answers All belong to the Allium genus. Shallots are a relative of the onion, and tastes a bit like an onion but has a sweeter, milder flavor. Chives are the smallest species of the onion family Alliaceae, native to Europe, Asia and North America. They are referred to only in the plural, because they grow in clumps rather than as individual plants. Scallions, called a green onion, tend to be milder tasting than most onions and lack a fully developed bulb. All onions develope a stronger flavor when they are grown in hotter weather The volatile oils that help to give Allium vegetables their distinctive flavors contain a class of organic molecules known as amino acid sulfoxides. Peeling, cutting or crushing an onion's tissue releases enzymes called allinases, which convert these molecules to sulfenic acids. The sulfenic acids, in turn, spontaneously rearrange to form syn-propanethial-S-oxide, the chemical that triggers the tears. They also condense to form odorous thiosulfinates, coincidentally evoking the pungent odor associated with chopping onions and eliciting the false accusation that it is the odor that causes the weepy eye. Incidentally, sulfenic acid in garlic takes a different chemical route, sparing the eyes. The formation of syn-propanethial-S-oxide peaks at about 30 seconds after mechanical damage to the onion and completes its cycle of chemical evolution over about five minutes.

05-20-2008, 10:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ophelia Josh's Loin Warmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Joshtopia Posts: 7,538 My Profile	OK, in lamens terms, an onion is an onion. You know what those look like. A green onion looks like this http://www.jeffsmeats.com/v-gonion.jpg and correct me if I'm wrong Fixr but the shallots part would be considered the whiter part of the green onion, while the chives would be the greener part diced. Last edited by Ophelia; 05-20-2008 at 10:16 PM..

05-21-2008, 06:49 PM	#11 (permalink)
Ophelia Josh's Loin Warmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Joshtopia Posts: 7,538 My Profile	COOL. I was yellin at the chilren thats why. Last edited by Ophelia; 05-21-2008 at 06:50 PM..

05-21-2008, 08:42 PM	#14 (permalink)
MSFixR Moderate Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dante's Inferno, Circle 5 Posts: 13,287 My Profile	Hey, I see you are still in Romania. They have good lettuce there. (P.S. Check out the music in the On This Day (May 22) post. and I'll bet you never did listen to the Mahler piece.) Last edited by MSFixR; 05-21-2008 at 08:43 PM..

05-21-2008, 06:05 AM	#4 (permalink)
MSFixR Moderate Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dante's Inferno, Circle 5 Posts: 13,287 My Profile	Chives (Allium schoenoprasum) and scallions (Allium fistulosum) are two slightly different species of allium.

05-21-2008, 08:07 AM	#5 (permalink)
Jocasta Josh&Hart&Nett. Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 21,216 My Profile	Just to throw in some confusion, in England we don't use the term scallions we call them spring onions.

05-21-2008, 05:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
Plastic Flute ICHiBAN HoOT Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 16,766 My Profile	^ lol Now that I have discovered shallots I will never go back to to the reg yellow onion. Man its been cold here in NJ. I swear Tues I felt colder than any day this winter. Camon SPRING !!!

05-21-2008, 06:04 PM	#7 (permalink)
Ophelia Josh's Loin Warmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Joshtopia Posts: 7,538 My Profile	^^^Oh, that sucks. Hey, never ditch the good ol yellow onion. It's a staple.

05-21-2008, 06:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
Plastic Flute ICHiBAN HoOT Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 16,766 My Profile	Im snubbing it.

05-21-2008, 06:11 PM	#9 (permalink)
Ophelia Josh's Loin Warmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Joshtopia Posts: 7,538 My Profile	snubber

05-21-2008, 06:20 PM	#10 (permalink)
Plastic Flute ICHiBAN HoOT Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 16,766 My Profile	Schtoop. Last nite I deamnt that i met you and you were a black women. lol

05-21-2008, 07:24 PM	#13 (permalink)
Plastic Flute ICHiBAN HoOT Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 16,766 My Profile	NO, Hey TY I will ck it out. I have it handy yet never "used" it. I'm so dumb that way. I think my dream was symbolic beacuse 2 of my favorite poets are black women.

05-21-2008, 09:18 PM	#15 (permalink)
Plastic Flute ICHiBAN HoOT Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 16,766 My Profile	youre right Ill go now P.

05-21-2008, 10:02 PM	#17 (permalink)
MSFixR Moderate Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dante's Inferno, Circle 5 Posts: 13,287 My Profile	Where ever you are the happiest.

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05-21-2008, 10:48 PM	#18 (permalink)
MissyO Perennially Disgruntled Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 4,398 My Profile	Can I be in Siberia? Also, young Op has told us before that she's Irish Italian. I'm possibly the only one who remembers this because I'm partial to the mix.

05-21-2008, 11:07 PM	#19 (permalink)
Plastic Flute ICHiBAN HoOT Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 16,766 My Profile	kinda sad about the itailian part. but.

05-22-2008, 02:30 AM	#20 (permalink)
Jocasta Josh&Hart&Nett. Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 21,216 My Profile	Same as darko, maybe they're related. I'm still in Bunraku, it's fun here and they have good radishes.