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Old 09-14-2007, 05:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Attention, men! Make sure you don't marry a woman who has her own s!hit to take care of, or she won't be so amenable to taking care of all of your s!hit all the time!
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Old 09-14-2007, 05:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 09-14-2007, 05:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Not even clicking that link.

How about Women, don't marry a lazy man?

Are we stuck back in the 1950's? Seriously.

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Old 09-14-2007, 05:17 PM   #4 (permalink)
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also didn´t clicked that link

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Old 09-14-2007, 05:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Lulz. I don't know if you actually read the article bru, but the other column is titled "Don't marry a lazy man"(women's perspective)

Gender rolls, schmender bowls. The only negative scenario would involve a hardcore business woman who was always on the go from Paris to LA to Milan. But just because a woman has a career does not mean that she is going to not want to have the trappings of the quote un-quote typical wife role.

I don't even think we could come to a concensus about such a role.
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Old 09-14-2007, 05:22 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Lulz. I don't know if you actually read the article bru, but the other column is titled "Don't marry a lazy man"(women's perspective)

Gender rolls, schmender bowls. The only negative scenario would involve a hardcore business woman who was always on the go from Paris to LA to Milan. But just because a woman has a career does not mean that she is going to not want to have the trappings of the quote un-quote typical wife role.

I don't even think we could come to a concensus about such a role.
Still haven't read it :P But, woo, go whoever wrote the women's perspective.

And I'm assuming it would be fine for a business man to go jetting off from Paris to LA to Milan then?
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Old 09-14-2007, 05:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
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By neglating to actually put forward an argument you're losing the battle and so are other women.

Being raised by career parents all I know is, it can be done, no one has to give up their careers or parenting, you do spend a bit less time with the kid but the quality of time spent together is much higher. It's all about the balance. All i'm saying it's not impossible to have a career, raise a kid and have a healthy marriage.

It's healthy to acknowledge those differences and appreciate the individual spirit of of your own gender and that of your counterpart.

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Old 09-14-2007, 05:36 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Not arguing at all, dear Beefy :P

I agree with the balance comment. Balance is definately the way to go. It's just that based on the article's headline, it would appear the writer is suggesting that a woman can't achieve those three things if she is a career woman.

But I value your opinion.
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Old 09-14-2007, 06:48 PM   #9 (permalink)
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you do spend a bit less time with the kid but the quality of time spent together is much higher.
How do you measure this "quality of time", how is it higher? I've never understood what this "quality time" is compared to the normal stuff.
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Old 09-14-2007, 07:10 PM   #10 (permalink)
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when 1 parent stays home to take care of the house and the children, the entire family benefits.

now whether or not it should be the father who stays home is another matter. but in most cases, it would be better if the father went to work, as men seem to be better at making money. you can claim that glass ceiling garbage all you want it is complete unsupported nonsense.

i dont know what the year has to do with anything. rational thinking is rational thinking. 2+2 doesnt = 7 because its 2007. thats a pitiful argument.

there is nothing appealing about a woman who hates children, prefers the office and being depressed and having one night stands with losers she meets in a bar because shes so terribly lonely. there is no reason for any of you to beleve any man would prefer that to a woman who loves children and wants nothing but to do what will help them and her husband the most.

and vice versa. you want to have kids and a husband who cares about dong whats right for his family, idiot woman? maybe work on yourself and develop those qualities family men want. this does not include knowing the bartender around the corner from your office on a first name basis or mastering PowerPoint.

i really dont see why people are offended by articles like this. its really pathetic. its like getting upset over the fact that major league baseball teams dont look to amateur hockey for recruits.
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Old 09-14-2007, 07:28 PM   #11 (permalink)
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A lot of women are married and live alone.
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Old 09-14-2007, 07:33 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I dunno know, I guess for most of the people I know working is not a choice but a neccessity.
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Old 09-14-2007, 08:01 PM   #13 (permalink)
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its a necessity because women entered the work force in huge numbers when tehyn werent needed and the moeny that was going to your husband is going to the idiot women who needed jobs to feel good about themselves or some crap even though they werent needed or wanted and there wasnt enough money to accomodate without lowering wages steadily for well over 20 years. there isnt a huge amounht of money that can be created out of thin air without having a terrible effect on things, people. supply and demand, folkssssssss.

thank your feminist foremothers for that.

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Both my parents worked and had careers. They were around at night, and weekends, and I don't recall ever thinking I was missing out on anything.

I didn't read the article though. I assumed darko did and based my comments on his well structured response.
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Emancipation rulezzzz!!
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I don't understand why anyone would want a wife who likes cooking and cleaning. It sounds like you're looking not for romance, but a charwoman! If you're feeling lazy you should hire a maid.

The idea that the women of the past used to spend all day looking after their children, or cleaning plates, is an illiterate recidivist's fantasy. In victorian england almost every woman had to work full-time. And well-off women who didn't work, didn't care for children either (children were bad for their complexion) - they spent all day playing their favourite schumann piano sonatas in the drawing room.

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I don't understand why anyone would want a wife who likes cooking and cleaning. It sounds like you're looking not for romance, but a charwoman! If you're feeling lazy you should hire a maid.

The idea that the women of the past used to spend all day looking after their children, or cleaning plates, is an illiterate recidivist's fantasy. In victorian england almost every woman had to work full-time. And well-off women who didn't work, didn't care for children either (children were bad for their complexion) - they spent all day playing their favourite schumann piano sonatas in the drawing women.
i dont know what any of that has to do with choosing a women to be your wife and the mother of your children.

i also dont see what rmoance has to do with a successful marriage, unless you think good marriage = one based completely on emotions. the high divorce rate due in large part to women deciding their husbands arent romantic enough, despite what the divorce will do to their children, doesn't seem like much fun. but yeah I guess romance is what matters in a marriage. all that matters is how you feel, folks! remember that.

i cant imagine too many men "like" going to work everyday to feed their family. no ones talking about "liking" anything. but if you want a family then dont' be surprised when it falls apart because you decided romance and excitement are more important than something as simple as being home for your children and making sure they eat well.
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What's the point in getting married if not for romance? Certainly not the children! I hope you realise that very few children under the age of ten show any appreciation for the important things in life, such as debussy or chateau latour 2002.
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I cant imagine too many men "like" going to work everyday to feed their family. no ones talking about "liking" anything. but if you want a family then dont' be surprised when it falls apart because you decided romance and excitement are more important than something as simple as being home for your children and making sure they eat well.
If you don't like your job, or looking after your children, you shouldn't do your job, or have your children! Someone who voluntarily lives a life he doesn't want to live is (as you americans so charmingly put it) a loser.
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