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Old 04-06-2008, 12:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Whoever said low-life shouldn't be allowed to breed was being extreme but sometimes it's got to be the way to go.

A SOUTH Australian father and daughter have revealed they are a couple, and have had a child together.
John and Jenny Deaves reunited 30 years after Mr Deaves separated from Jenny's mother.

Jenny was 31 and just two weeks after meeting, father and daughter had sex.

"John and I are in this relationship as consenting adults," Mrs Deaves told the Nine Network's 60 Minutes tonight.

"We are just asking for a little bit of respect and understanding."

Their nine-month-old daughter Celeste, shown on TV, appears fit and healthy.

Mrs Deaves said soon after reuniting with her father she began to see him as a man first and her father second.

"I was looking at him, sort of going, oh, he's not too bad," she said.

"Like you might look at a man across the bar at a nightclub."

Mrs Deaves brought two children, Samantha and Alex, into the relationship after splitting from her former partner.

Mr Deaves admitted that he "initially" thought having sex with his daughter was wrong.

"Emotions take over, as people no doubt realise, there are times during your life where emotions do rule the heart, it rules the head," he said.

"I knew it was illegal, of course I knew it was illegal but you know, so what."

Mrs Deaves said the physical relationship with her father was like "a sexual relationship with any other man".

For Mr Deaves the sexual relationship was "absolutely fantastic".

A South Australian police media spokesman said "the couple is being monitored".


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God (or something) has served justice on them... that is one ugly kid, as well as screwed up.
"Are you my dad or my granddad?"
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Old 04-06-2008, 02:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You know how I think about laws that criminalize sexual acts that only involve consenting parties... BS!

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John and Jenny Deaves reunited 30 years after Mr Deaves separated from Jenny's mother.
The vast majority of people doesn't feel sexual attraction towards famaily members. I think it has to do with knowing each other since childhood. Almost any incest case in the media is about people who have been separated as kids or at keast that have not seen each other in several years.

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"John and I are in this relationship as consenting adults,"
And she has a point. We allow gay people to do private stuff in their privacy (rightly so), so why do incestous couples get all this flak? They don't impose their lifestyle on others.

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Their nine-month-old daughter Celeste, shown on TV, appears fit and healthy.
Ok, the whole thing with the higher risk that children are born disabled makes a point. That was dumb of the couple. Good, they had been lucky. They should have used contraception. That's what they could be reproached for, not there mere having sex thing.

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"Emotions take over, as people no doubt realise, there are times during your life where emotions do rule the heart, it rules the head,"
Of course, one could suppress one's feelings and lead an unhappy life in order to not upset anyone with a closer mind.
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Old 04-06-2008, 02:33 PM   #3 (permalink)
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You know how I think about laws that criminalize sexual acts that only involve consenting parties... BS!
Agreed but this isn't such a case. He was a father before, he had those responsibilities and should have considered how this would affect his children.

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Almost any incest case in the media is about people who have been separated as kids or at keast that have not seen each other in several years.
What about the couples that have known each other all their adult lives, would you condemn them?

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Ok, the whole thing with the higher risk that children are born disabled makes a point.
Yes, a significant point and contraception can fail but it's not just about the physical risks, how would the child be affected mentally, by having her grandfather also be her father?

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Of course, one could suppress one's feelings and lead an unhappy life in order to not upset anyone with a closer mind.
It's not about upsetting people but doing what's right for the children involved. Yes, for that sometimes people should suppress their desires. It strikes me as incredibly selfish to do otherwise.
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Old 04-06-2008, 03:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
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So, the population of Tennessee is 5,689,283 but there are only six surnames in the telephone book.
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Old 04-06-2008, 03:36 PM   #5 (permalink)
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What about the couples that have known each other all their adult lives, would you condemn them?
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Yes, a significant point and contraception can fail but it's not just about the physical risks, how would the child be affected mentally, by having her grandfather also be her father?
There are relative save ways of contraception. Should people be prohibited to have sex, if they cannot guarantee that this might lead to pregnancy? About the other thing, if they had used contraception, they wouldn't have to worry about that. Also, unfavorable circumstances on childhood can occur anywhere.
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Old 04-06-2008, 04:10 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Women are sexual predators who will in the end seek to entice anyone to bed.

That woman is a whore the guy was just misled.
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Old 04-06-2008, 04:39 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Samson refuses to consider the mental torment inflicted on a child. Yes, bad things happen but this could have easily been avoided. It was a selfish act on the part of that couple... people need to consider others.

Good one, Scotty... a solid 9.

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Old 04-06-2008, 04:46 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Ya know. Ted Bundy's mom got pregnant as a teenager and her parents were so ashamed that they told everyone that Ted was theirs. So Ted grew up with the lie that his grandparents were his parents and that his mother was his sister.

Ted had some anger issues with women later on in his life.
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Old 04-07-2008, 05:11 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I understand Samson's point of view, he's talked about this subject on a number of occasions and I'm all for live and let live but sex between parent and an adult child is different. There are boundaries that can be crossed and protecting the child (even when they're a consenting adult) is paramount. An adult has control and power, however it's used and having sex with your children is an abuse of that responsibility... in my opinion.
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This was on 60 minutes last night here which I guess is why it's in the papers and was all the talk on the radio stations.

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A FATHER and daughter who have revealed they are couple and have a child together had another baby who died a few days after birth from a congenital heart disease, court documents show.

John Earnest Deaves and his daughter Jennifer Anne Deaves are at the centre of an incest scandal in South Australia over their seven-year relationship.

The pair revealed their relationship on Channel 9's 60 Minutes program last night, saying they were just asking for some respect and understanding.

In March this year, they were placed on three-year good behaviour bonds after pleading guilty to two counts of incest.
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Old 04-07-2008, 06:18 AM   #11 (permalink)
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had another baby who died a few days after birth from a congenital heart disease,
How tragic. And how selfish to then have another child.

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"The offence of incest exists not merely to protect children from sexual abuse," Judge Millsteed said.

"In my view, other relevant factors include the need to prevent the high risk of congenital defects in children born of incestuous relationships and to prevent children suffering psychological harm and social stigmatisation."
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Old 04-07-2008, 07:16 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Holy sh*t that couple used to live in my home town Port Pirie. There was a write up about them in our local paper living in Pirie & the whole incest thing & how the judge ordered them to stop having sex but no names were mentioned.
Now finding out who they really are is weird. I personally do not know them at all thank f*ck

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Old 04-07-2008, 11:47 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Government should take the kid, I mean save the poor thing from years of being picked on.
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Incest at it's best.
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Old 04-07-2008, 01:20 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Woody Allen comes to mind.
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Old 04-07-2008, 01:25 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Woody Allen comes to mind.
At least they're not blood relatives.
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At least they're not blood relatives.
True.

Two others were Charlie Chaplin and Hetty Kelly (age 15) and Roman Polanski and Samantha Geimer (age 13).
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I wonder if Charlie would have killed Roman if he was there.
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I wonder if Charlie would have killed Roman if he was there.
Like the guy who was killed on Hearst's yacht, Ince, I think his name was.
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