His name is Anthony Fremont

06-09-2006, 09:09 PM

Rather than reply to an existing thread, Ill just make it easy for this to be forgotten in the air also.

"And you'll note that the people in Peaksville, Ohio, have to smile.They have to think happy thoughts and say happy things because, once displeased, the monster can wish them into a cornfield or change them into a grotesque walking horror. This particular monster can read minds you see. He knows every thought, he can feel every emotion. Oh yes, I did forget something didn't I.

This is the monster. His name is Anthony Fremont."

Im looking for the reason why the "i have aids" thread was closed when it was. What I see is a disagreement. I dont see any wanton flaming. I dont see any insults. I see a disagreement. (note the "when it was closed"- if it was based on the title or anything like that, it would have gone 2 days ago)

There was no reason to think this couldnt sort itself out- it was perfectly rational. No flaming. No gratuitous sh*te. Yes I might have got a little personal, but that was the point.. see? ..and lets not forget, this is 'personal' about something that happened on fanhost- its not like i was dredging up spoons personal history. Maybe in his next post he would have answered my question and everyone could have left happy? Who knows. We were always at war with Oceania.

People harp on about the 'good old days' of fanhost- how its such a loss that person X doesnt post anymore. Well, in 4 years of being here, it seems to me that Winter, Trinex, Orange, Sylus, Spin, BigErn f**king whoever argued like b*stards in those halycon years. And you know what? Thats probably why it was good. You see, if people can argue then get over it, they are more familiar. More friendly. They might reply better to eachothers posts, and not just in a "YOU ARE LION-O. YOU RATED 76%" kind of way. This seems to be what people want, judging by all the meta-theads that periodially get posted (yes, I know this is one..)

Now, if people cant disagree, if any "drama" is instantly cut down.. what you get is endless f**king conversations that seem like the first 20 minutes of a blind date. Niceties. Small talk. Quizz scores.. well maybe not that, but you see what I mean. Now what we actually got out of having the thread locked is Spoon probably p*ssed at me, and not being able to reply, Jo left hanging in the air with a decent point that cant have an anwer, and me not knowing if that was actually a good point, if I had my history right, or any kind of resolution in general.

If you have to step in, Id have thought it'd be better to just make a post saying "thats being too personal, stop being a dlck Mentalist". About half a dozen posts in the (still open) thread later, it'd be done with. As it is, nothings answered or changed (anyone want to start a pool on the next 'aids' thread?), but people have a bad aftertaste in their mouths.

god knows that I dont know anything about the competition Fanhost has- i only post here, and even then its not that often. But is mind numbing beige inanity really seen as the big pull? Is that whats going to get these fabled posters coming, the most middle of the road, dull-but-steady conversation possible? As I said im no expert but.. i dont see it.

I had another point to make but.. Ive lost it.

Anyway, In a futile attempt to stop this getting thrown in the shredder, Ill ask a question. How far should moderating go?* Have I got any kind of point at all here, or is this just drunk talk?

..and yeah, don't say "we should sort it out in private messages". Private messages for anything that isnt explicitly private completely obliterate the whole point of a bloody public forum.

*feel free to answer as 'very far', 'moderately far' or 'not too far'. It may help this thread survive.

BlackWolf · 06-09-2006, 11:37 PM

Yeah, I kind of agree, it sometimes seems like we're only allowed to state agreeing opinions. It's seems quite immature, but it's at the mods discretion; in Starlets we're always disagreeing about stuff(chicks) and we all just laugh it off.(just using starlets as an example as I spend most of my time there) I don't know what the deal is in Whatever, but some people seem to take this sh|t way too seriously.

Anyway, I don't know anything about your first question with the whole Spoon/Diablos drama or whatever it really was, sorry.

**open32** · 06-10-2006, 12:14 AM

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Im looking for the reason why the "i have aids" thread was closed when it was

Ok ill do my best to answer the question.

The direction it was heading was towards an unhealthy thread. Sarah determined that the only thing that could further come out of the thread was negativity, and I completely agree with her closing it. I know you have said to let people argue, and I have the majority of my posts in News and Politics doing just that, but we have seen, not just recently, but many times before, that arguments especialy in whatever escalate into name calling and board wide drama. Im not saying that thread would have, but I couldnt see where that thread was going to go, and whether people misinterpreted it or not it doesnt matter.

Mainly its a fan site, although it has a lot of posts 9/10 posters we have dont frequent Whatever, there in the celeb forums.

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Ill ask a question. How far should moderating go

Dont know. I have gotten many requests for more moderation then we have right now both by posters and mods. Theres one right now in this forum, another in Questions. Also complaints about too much. Where does the line get put, I dont know, nobody does and thats because everyone wants something different. A balance is attempted and thats basically to keep things positive.

06-10-2006, 01:03 AM

It was going in a bad direction. I'm sure if I didnt close it one of the admins would have.

**Plastic Flute** · 06-10-2006, 01:26 AM

How Bizzare that I happen to be watching Fight Club right now and reading this at the same time...

darko. · 06-10-2006, 01:27 AM

this thread ...fremont? what? what the hell is this

fight club whatever

man FH is in the sh*tter.

Blackmask · 06-10-2006, 01:44 AM

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Im not saying that thread would have, but I couldnt see where that thread was going to go, and whether people misinterpreted it or not it doesnt matter.

So it was a "what might happen" closing? You're joking right? Threads get closed because they might turn bad now? Why not wait until it does go in the wrong direction rather than thinking it might. Or, even better, calm it down with a simple "cut the crap and personal name calling" comment. It's amazing the better response talking gets to swinging a sword.

**Plastic Flute** · 06-10-2006, 01:51 AM

WWTDD ?

**Jocasta** · 06-10-2006, 02:21 AM

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The direction it was heading was towards an unhealthy thread. Sarah determined that the only thing that could further come out of the thread was negativity, and I completely agree with her closing it.

Unhealthy? You mean like people were discussing a silly, joke thread? Wow, if that's unhealthy, the 'old' fanhost was terminally sick. When I think of the vile, insulting, ill founded, stupid, outrageous threads in the past, this was just a little poke in the ribs compared to those "all out battles".

Now I'm not saying all that school-yard bullying was right but you can't then, as Menalist says, hark back with sadness to "the-good-old-days" and at the same time close any "poteniallly" contentious thread.

Actually, I'm happy with the more up-beat, friendly forum as it is now and think on the whole the administration do a good job, but when someone accuses the other posters of not understanding a simple joke, I want to ask how and why they think that.
Is that too much to ask?

And OT... what happened to a Trine post I saw yesterday; did he delete it?

**open32** · 06-10-2006, 03:03 AM

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So it was a "what might happen" closing? You're joking right? Threads get closed because they might turn bad now? Why not wait until it does go in the wrong direction rather than thinking it might.

ok, I sould have used the word starting to happen.

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Unhealthy?

I cant understand why my explanation about why a thread might get closed is getting ripped apart. A thread that simply has no where else to go should be closed. The only place it was headed was for drama, the off topic part. Jocasta I dont think it was your question that got it closed.

As for waiting for things to go in the wrong direction and blowing up, I dont know how well that worked in the past. I agree with you Blackmask that its better to talk then swing the sword, otherwise your going to get a thread like this one all the time.

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And OT... what happened to a Trine post I saw yesterday; did he delete it?

Dont know who deleted it.

Also, as for a thread getting closed it isnt really a big deal. I find sometimes too much is made out of it.

**Jocasta** · 06-10-2006, 03:09 AM

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I cant understand why my explanation about why a thread might get closed is getting ripped apart.

It's about more than closing one thread (a thread of very little merit, it must be said) but about the whole ethos of New Fanhost.

Blackmask · 06-10-2006, 04:34 AM

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A thread that simply has no where else to go should be closed. The only place it was headed was for drama, the off topic part.

*checks which forum this is*

hmmm...it's "Whatever"....so OT drama doesn't fit in the "whatever" category now?

Look at those driving the out of control "drama". Spoon, Mental & Jocasta....are those 3 really so unreasonable that a quick PM or a post saying "cut it out" wouldn't have worked and avoided this thread? Which, by the way, would have avoided this unnecessary drama.

**open32** · 06-10-2006, 04:55 AM

^I didnt think it was as serious as all that. I didnt say anyone did anything wrong or anyone was out of control. It just seemed like the thread had no where else to go, was going off topic and looked like it was turning negative. So simply and easily it was closed.

Sometimes its just a judgment call, like I said before I can see why Sarah made the decision. I have seen similar type threads closed before in Whatever and I've seen some that have stayed open. I just dont find the fact that the thread was closed a very big deal.

**Val** · 06-11-2006, 05:18 PM

Do all of you wanna know what I think about this situation?
I lost a friend because of a message board... can you believe?

I talk to TrineX almost everyday on msn. Today was the same thing. Trine is very sad with me according to some things said by Mentalist here in this topic. He wanted that I did something for him, but I can do nothing ... or better ... what could I do for him? Beg to an administrator to unban him? Não way. I wouldn't do that.
TrineX was one of my first friends here at fanhost. If my English is this sh!t that you see today, it's because he improved it a little. Why? Because my English was a million times worse from this that you are seeing today. Thanks my friend. But, I reflected the words of Sarah. How can anyone be your friend only at fanhost and not out of here? A true friend is always a friend in any place. From today, Alex is not my friend anymore out of here. Yeah ... this let me very sad.

What I will say now, I said a lot of times before.

What is a forum? A forum is a place where topics are opened for discussions and ... what is the function of moderators? To take care about the discussions to not let them go out of the fanhost standards or what the administrators think about them.
So the moderators can close topics opened for the members in accordance with their will???
Não, they cannot.
If the topics are closed by the moderators and as a consequence of this the discussions are locked up, it's because the subject does not interest more to the forum. Sometimes I disagree to this action, but I'm sure that this was necessary and the other members need to understand also. I believe that this is what makes the old members don't post anymore.
Too bad!

06-11-2006, 05:37 PM

uh yeah no, i'd like to address this before I get banned on my vault of heaven account also,

there was never a time asked to "beg the admins for an unban"

when you message someone everyday with "I miss you on Fanhost!" with a bunch of fanhost mentions, one would get tired of that also. if you don't want someone here, stop throwing i miss you on fanhost messages at them

I am in fact Banned again. My topic that I posted has been deleted by Jeff. It can still be viewed by moderators and wasn't an attack on any posters but a joke on myself for wanting to post again. Jeff said that he never unbanned me

but the proof says otherwise. He says I'm immature and that I should get a life. All I wanted to do was post again on fh and bury the hatchet but was banned before I even started to post.
I start to post on FH and I get banned without a reason why. Except a msg saying to contact jeff and discuss why I am banned. He never discusses why I am banned but insults me. Which I have shown a few of you on FH the e-mails for proof.

So I told val, if he wants me to post on FH, he should make a topic in whatever asking people if they want me posting again. Because Jeff says that no one wants me on FH and that they all say I should stay away. So I am making that clear to everyone what the situation is. but instead, val misinterprets it and assumes i'm asking himt o beg for an unban, even tohugh i rarely even talk to Val on MSN, I would hardly say it's everyday. Usually he messages me with Come back to Fanhost! Or something absurd and that concludes our conversations.

i expect this account to get banned too, since after my unbanning, no matter how i've tried to log onto here, i automatically get banned, without reason.

Jeff · 06-11-2006, 08:57 PM

email me with a message other than

"WTF is your problem" as the subject

and

"A bit ban happy aren't you? You know what? Don't ****ing unban people if
you don't want them to post on your board. ****ing tard."

as your message and maybe we can have a reasonable conversation. Also, i told you that i did unban you the first time as you have posted above, however, i rebanned you because you kept the negative attitude.

We obviously have differences and that is fine, but i do not and will not respond well to email messages like the one above.

Also, I am keeping this post because it was the first post you have had since our feud that is fair and mature. (and that is not a shot).

06-11-2006, 11:27 PM

Talk about spin. Could you change the meaning any more?

Ok, yes I did e-mail him that. But before you go thinking.. OMGah, he’s attacking Jeff. Nooooo. You must understand the story. For those of you that do not know. I was upset with what was happening with the admin. I asked to get myself taken off the administration and just post on the board. I soon got upset with how things were going in whatever. The way they were choosing mods and making it a game just seemed to trivialize the point of being a mod. It got so frustrating with what was going on, that I wanted to be banned from FH. They wouldn’t do it. Which only got me angrier. It was something that I needed because I care about FH. People know me, I need to get laid back.

The only way I could get banned was to spam. Which I did in the topic where I requested to be banned. It happened and I was going to be banned for 30 days. This was great because I needed to cool off and let things happen. You guys have seen what has been going on since I left, I don’t have to go over the A B and C of the journey. After about 2 weeks I was unbanned. I kept away just to vent for a while. During the whole time, I had various friends msg me asking when I would be posting on fh and if I was ever coming back.

Finally I decide to come back. I thought it would be hilarious to make a topic that was an interview that made fun of the fact that I was coming back. Maybe no one got the joke.. I dunno considering they banned me right after I made it. The ban said.. if you have questions, e-mail me for discussion.

Now I did respond that way to him.. but that was because he banned me right away and then when I went on my alt to ask about it, he banned the alt right away. Then IP banned me. If you didn’t want me on the board.. why did you unban me?

So I sent that e-mail because I was pissed, I mean someone has an itchy ban finger.

Here’s his response: I would suggest venturing out and finding a life away from your computer.Â If is
amuzing to me and others watching you drop to the level of immaturaty that you
have.Â

Is life so bad that you feel the need to continue coming back to fanhost to live
out your daily routine?Â

My god... Grow up.Â I would expect this from a 16year old.Â Not someone my age.
Jesus...

Ok, if he wanted to have a civil conversation.. is that the best way to respond? He never answers why he banned me. Just talks ****.

My response: I would expect someone your age to learn how to spell...

uh wtf are you talking about? I was asked to come back to fanhost. I wasn't banned and there's people on your board that still want me to post there. So I make a harmless topic.. 1 topic mind you that was watered down to not directly insult anyone but make news of me coming back to fanhost to post. So I get banned for it? If you don't want someone posting on your precious board, don't unban them. But oh well, I was against the demise of fanhost but if you want to continue to push it down the ****stream, keep doing what you are doing. Immature? Lack of common sense.

I was pissed off. I mean I got banned after everyone kept telling me it was ok to come back to FH and I never received a reason except insults. I care about FH and I wanted to help improve it, but if he wanted it to keep getting worse, that was his priority

His response: ok, see ya..

Thanks for all you have done!

I dunno about you guys.. but that comes off smug.

My response:
yeah, whatever man. For someone that's grown up, why is it so difficult for you to answer questions? Will you post my email in the administration board in your typical low class style?

Here goes the question, yet again. So why did you decide to unban me, then ban me again, only to say, contact me to discuss this issue, only to ban me again when I logged on another account?

That sure doesn't sound like discussing to me. With that attitude, you sure are grown up.

When I "contacted you", the only reason I had insulted you was because you banned me again yet at the same time insist I contact you for further discussions. You make no sense. Just like banning me and then unbanning me, with the comment that I have access back to the board again.

Next time do yourself a favor and don't unban people you don't want posting anyway. I also don't expect you to reply with anything pertaining to this email since you lack the intelligence required to answer questions.

I was upset because he told me to e-mail him and not once has he explained why the trigger happy ban button was hit. So I decided alright this is the last e-mail, I will give him a tip.. don’t unban people and tell them to post on fh if you don’t want them to. I do admit he didn’t post the e-mail in the admin forum.. no.. he posted it here. Well, I better post the rest before it becomes spin material.

His response:
dude,

get out of your house... i never unbanned you... not sure who did... deal with it and go away. Go find another site. Even the people YOU think are your friends email me with comments like, "no matter what, just let Trine go away".....sad....

so... just go away.... you have nothing to gain or win here. You can insult me all you want... you can call me whatever you want...but do you really think i care? NO. Some day you will understand....

He never unbanned me? Wait.. *scratches head* What was that picture posted up there? Oh wait.. he did unban me but banned me then someone else unbanned me and he banned me? This starts to get confusing. I have only been banned twice. Once from my request and then he unbanned me, then the banning after 1 post. *shrug* Also.. who are these people that don’t want me on FH? My friends don’t want me on FH? Then who are these *******s that keep msging me asking when I will be on FH. I’m confused Jeff!

My response: clearly you are the one flipping out about all this, since you repeatedly
keep telling me to get a life. I have people who have told me that it was
you who unbanned me though, following a thread about unbanning lobby,
don't bull**** it.

Who are these people that you think are my friends? I really doubt any of
the people you think are my friends are even my friends... but this is
typical of you. You always assume. It doesn't matter, I guess this is
the best way for you to save your face. Its cool man.

KEIRA KNIGHTLEY FOREVER!

There were 2 more e-mails. One where I showed the pic of him saying in the admin forum he unbanned me. (which he said he never did) and him replying jackass, that was the first time. Then you came back and played your dumb game.. I have no idea who unbanned you the other day causing all this again...That is when I had to ban all your accounts, something I didn't do the first time.

god you are stupid. lobby was also unbanned and then banned. ****, you were here for how long? So of course we were going to give you a shot again.

You sure are bored eh? Well, write back soon... this is entertaining.

I do admit, at least he didn't ban this account so I can get my reply in. so kudos for that

Blackmask · 06-11-2006, 11:33 PM

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It got so frustrating with what was going on, that I wanted to be banned from FH. They wouldn’t do it. Which only got me angrier.

Why do you need to get banned because you are frustrated with things? Why not just stop posting for a while and cool down without making it an antagonising and confrontational situation?

Jeff · 06-11-2006, 11:38 PM

I really have no response... you stated the facts... not sure why you did this since in my eyes it shows you acted poorly by "forcing a ban"... should have just left.

Again, you are making a deal out of "my stating I did or didn't unban you"... yes, i did, a long time ago... but as i posted in the admin forum, i thought you would change. so I -rebanned you because well, in my eyes, you did not. My comment of "never unbanning you" was in reference to the other day when you used your other account (and trinex was logged in too), thus, looking like someone unbanned you which is what I meant and tried to explain. I was stating that I never unbanned you...the second time. If I was really pissed, I would't have asked you to email me to discuss.... of course your email was not the "hug and make up" i was expecting.

If you want to know why I am "trigger happy" it is because you went on a total rage of spam. Insults, swears, just awful stuff. It was a total different trine and so of course i was on the watch...

My smug comment was my attempt to just walk away. End the conversation.

This is honestly the most adult like conversation you and I have had in months... If this had occured back when this all blew up, we might have avoided all of this.

06-09-2006, 09:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
He's a mentalist Posts: n/a	His name is Anthony Fremont Rather than reply to an existing thread, Ill just make it easy for this to be forgotten in the air also. "And you'll note that the people in Peaksville, Ohio, have to smile.They have to think happy thoughts and say happy things because, once displeased, the monster can wish them into a cornfield or change them into a grotesque walking horror. This particular monster can read minds you see. He knows every thought, he can feel every emotion. Oh yes, I did forget something didn't I. This is the monster. His name is Anthony Fremont." Im looking for the reason why the "i have aids" thread was closed when it was. What I see is a disagreement. I dont see any wanton flaming. I dont see any insults. I see a disagreement. (note the "when it was closed"- if it was based on the title or anything like that, it would have gone 2 days ago) There was no reason to think this couldnt sort itself out- it was perfectly rational. No flaming. No gratuitous shte. Yes I might have got a little personal, but that was the point.. see? ..and lets not forget, this is 'personal' about something that happened on fanhost- its not like i was dredging up spoons personal history. Maybe in his next post he would have answered my question and everyone could have left happy? Who knows. We were always at war with Oceania. People harp on about the 'good old days' of fanhost- how its such a loss that person X doesnt post anymore. Well, in 4 years of being here, it seems to me that Winter, Trinex, Orange, Sylus, Spin, BigErn fking whoever* argued like bstards in those halycon years. And you know what? Thats probably why it was good. You see, if people can argue then get over it, they are more familiar. More friendly. They might reply better to eachothers posts, and not just in a "YOU ARE LION-O. YOU RATED 76%" kind of way. This seems to be what people want, judging by all the meta-theads that periodially get posted (yes, I know this is one..) Now, if people cant disagree, if any "drama" is instantly cut down.. what you get is endless fking conversations that seem like the first 20 minutes of a blind date. Niceties. Small talk. Quizz scores.. well maybe not that, but you see what I mean. Now what we actually got out of having the thread locked is Spoon probably pssed at me, and not being able to reply, Jo left hanging in the air with a decent point that cant have an anwer, and me not knowing if that was actually a good point, if I had my history right, or any kind of resolution in general. If you have to step in, Id have thought it'd be better to just make a post saying "thats being too personal, stop being a dlck Mentalist". About half a dozen posts in the (still open) thread later, it'd be done with. As it is, nothings answered or changed (anyone want to start a pool on the next 'aids' thread?), but people have a bad aftertaste in their mouths. god knows that I dont know anything about the competition Fanhost has- i only post here, and even then its not that often. But is mind numbing beige inanity really seen as the big pull? Is that whats going to get these fabled posters coming, the most middle of the road, dull-but-steady conversation possible? As I said im no expert but.. i dont see it. I had another point to make but.. Ive lost it. Anyway, In a futile attempt to stop this getting thrown in the shredder, Ill ask a question. How far should moderating go?* Have I got any kind of point at all here, or is this just drunk talk? ..and yeah, don't say "we should sort it out in private messages". Private messages for anything that isnt explicitly private completely obliterate the whole point of a bloody public forum. *feel free to answer as 'very far', 'moderately far' or 'not too far'. It may help this thread survive.

06-10-2006, 01:26 AM	#5 (permalink)
Plastic Flute ICHiBAN HoOT Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 13,390 My Profile	How Bizzare that I happen to be watching Fight Club right now and reading this at the same time... Last edited by Plastic Flute : 06-10-2006 at 01:33 AM.

06-10-2006, 01:51 AM	#8 (permalink)
Plastic Flute ICHiBAN HoOT Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 13,390 My Profile	WWTDD ? Last edited by Plastic Flute : 06-10-2006 at 01:57 AM.

06-10-2006, 04:55 AM	#13 (permalink)
open32 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 7,646 My Profile	^I didnt think it was as serious as all that. I didnt say anyone did anything wrong or anyone was out of control. It just seemed like the thread had no where else to go, was going off topic and looked like it was turning negative. So simply and easily it was closed. Sometimes its just a judgment call, like I said before I can see why Sarah made the decision. I have seen similar type threads closed before in Whatever and I've seen some that have stayed open. I just dont find the fact that the thread was closed a very big deal. Last edited by open32 : 06-10-2006 at 04:56 AM.

06-11-2006, 05:37 PM	#15 (permalink)
vaultofkeira Posts: n/a	uh yeah no, i'd like to address this before I get banned on my vault of heaven account also, there was never a time asked to "beg the admins for an unban" when you message someone everyday with "I miss you on Fanhost!" with a bunch of fanhost mentions, one would get tired of that also. if you don't want someone here, stop throwing i miss you on fanhost messages at them I am in fact Banned again. My topic that I posted has been deleted by Jeff. It can still be viewed by moderators and wasn't an attack on any posters but a joke on myself for wanting to post again. Jeff said that he never unbanned me but the proof says otherwise. He says I'm immature and that I should get a life. All I wanted to do was post again on fh and bury the hatchet but was banned before I even started to post. I start to post on FH and I get banned without a reason why. Except a msg saying to contact jeff and discuss why I am banned. He never discusses why I am banned but insults me. Which I have shown a few of you on FH the e-mails for proof. So I told val, if he wants me to post on FH, he should make a topic in whatever asking people if they want me posting again. Because Jeff says that no one wants me on FH and that they all say I should stay away. So I am making that clear to everyone what the situation is. but instead, val misinterprets it and assumes i'm asking himt o beg for an unban, even tohugh i rarely even talk to Val on MSN, I would hardly say it's everyday. Usually he messages me with Come back to Fanhost! Or something absurd and that concludes our conversations. i expect this account to get banned too, since after my unbanning, no matter how i've tried to log onto here, i automatically get banned, without reason. Last edited by vaultofkeira : 06-11-2006 at 06:17 PM.

06-09-2006, 11:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
BlackWolf Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 28,122 My Profile	Yeah, I kind of agree, it sometimes seems like we're only allowed to state agreeing opinions. It's seems quite immature, but it's at the mods discretion; in Starlets we're always disagreeing about stuff(chicks) and we all just laugh it off.(just using starlets as an example as I spend most of my time there) I don't know what the deal is in Whatever, but some people seem to take this sh\|t way too seriously. Anyway, I don't know anything about your first question with the whole Spoon/Diablos drama or whatever it really was, sorry.

06-10-2006, 01:03 AM	#4 (permalink)
SaRaH Posts: n/a	It was going in a bad direction. I'm sure if I didnt close it one of the admins would have.

06-10-2006, 01:27 AM	#6 (permalink)
darko. Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: shlums 'o shaolin Posts: 2,097	this thread ...fremont? what? what the hell is this fight club whatever man FH is in the sh*tter.

06-11-2006, 05:18 PM	#14 (permalink)
Val Gear Heads Moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Brazil Posts: 7,910 My Profile	Do all of you wanna know what I think about this situation? I lost a friend because of a message board... can you believe? I talk to TrineX almost everyday on msn. Today was the same thing. Trine is very sad with me according to some things said by Mentalist here in this topic. He wanted that I did something for him, but I can do nothing ... or better ... what could I do for him? Beg to an administrator to unban him? Não way. I wouldn't do that. TrineX was one of my first friends here at fanhost. If my English is this sh!t that you see today, it's because he improved it a little. Why? Because my English was a million times worse from this that you are seeing today. Thanks my friend. But, I reflected the words of Sarah. How can anyone be your friend only at fanhost and not out of here? A true friend is always a friend in any place. From today, Alex is not my friend anymore out of here. Yeah ... this let me very sad. What I will say now, I said a lot of times before. What is a forum? A forum is a place where topics are opened for discussions and ... what is the function of moderators? To take care about the discussions to not let them go out of the fanhost standards or what the administrators think about them. So the moderators can close topics opened for the members in accordance with their will??? Não, they cannot. If the topics are closed by the moderators and as a consequence of this the discussions are locked up, it's because the subject does not interest more to the forum. Sometimes I disagree to this action, but I'm sure that this was necessary and the other members need to understand also. I believe that this is what makes the old members don't post anymore. Too bad!

06-11-2006, 08:57 PM	#16 (permalink)
Jeff The Former Owner - now just a poster! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 3,169 My Profile	email me with a message other than "WTF is your problem" as the subject and "A bit ban happy aren't you? You know what? Don't **ing unban people if you don't want them to post on your board. **ing tard." as your message and maybe we can have a reasonable conversation. Also, i told you that i did unban you the first time as you have posted above, however, i rebanned you because you kept the negative attitude. We obviously have differences and that is fine, but i do not and will not respond well to email messages like the one above. Also, I am keeping this post because it was the first post you have had since our feud that is fair and mature. (and that is not a shot).

06-11-2006, 11:27 PM	#17 (permalink)
vaultofkeira Posts: n/a	Talk about spin. Could you change the meaning any more? Ok, yes I did e-mail him that. But before you go thinking.. OMGah, he’s attacking Jeff. Nooooo. You must understand the story. For those of you that do not know. I was upset with what was happening with the admin. I asked to get myself taken off the administration and just post on the board. I soon got upset with how things were going in whatever. The way they were choosing mods and making it a game just seemed to trivialize the point of being a mod. It got so frustrating with what was going on, that I wanted to be banned from FH. They wouldn’t do it. Which only got me angrier. It was something that I needed because I care about FH. People know me, I need to get laid back. The only way I could get banned was to spam. Which I did in the topic where I requested to be banned. It happened and I was going to be banned for 30 days. This was great because I needed to cool off and let things happen. You guys have seen what has been going on since I left, I don’t have to go over the A B and C of the journey. After about 2 weeks I was unbanned. I kept away just to vent for a while. During the whole time, I had various friends msg me asking when I would be posting on fh and if I was ever coming back. Finally I decide to come back. I thought it would be hilarious to make a topic that was an interview that made fun of the fact that I was coming back. Maybe no one got the joke.. I dunno considering they banned me right after I made it. The ban said.. if you have questions, e-mail me for discussion. Now I did respond that way to him.. but that was because he banned me right away and then when I went on my alt to ask about it, he banned the alt right away. Then IP banned me. If you didn’t want me on the board.. why did you unban me? So I sent that e-mail because I was pissed, I mean someone has an itchy ban finger. Here’s his response: I would suggest venturing out and finding a life away from your computer.Â If is amuzing to me and others watching you drop to the level of immaturaty that you have.Â Is life so bad that you feel the need to continue coming back to fanhost to live out your daily routine?Â My god... Grow up.Â I would expect this from a 16year old.Â Not someone my age. Jesus... Ok, if he wanted to have a civil conversation.. is that the best way to respond? He never answers why he banned me. Just talks **. My response: I would expect someone your age to learn how to spell... uh wtf are you talking about? I was asked to come back to fanhost. I wasn't banned and there's people on your board that still want me to post there. So I make a harmless topic.. 1 topic mind you that was watered down to not directly insult anyone but make news of me coming back to fanhost to post. So I get banned for it? If you don't want someone posting on your precious board, don't unban them. But oh well, I was against the demise of fanhost but if you want to continue to push it down the *stream, keep doing what you are doing. Immature? Lack of common sense. I was pissed off. I mean I got banned after everyone kept telling me it was ok to come back to FH and I never received a reason except insults. I care about FH and I wanted to help improve it, but if he wanted it to keep getting worse, that was his priority His response: ok, see ya.. Thanks for all you have done! I dunno about you guys.. but that comes off smug. My response: yeah, whatever man. For someone that's grown up, why is it so difficult for you to answer questions? Will you post my email in the administration board in your typical low class style? Here goes the question, yet again. So why did you decide to unban me, then ban me again, only to say, contact me to discuss this issue, only to ban me again when I logged on another account? That sure doesn't sound like discussing to me. With that attitude, you sure are grown up. When I "contacted you", the only reason I had insulted you was because you banned me again yet at the same time insist I contact you for further discussions. You make no sense. Just like banning me and then unbanning me, with the comment that I have access back to the board again. Next time do yourself a favor and don't unban people you don't want posting anyway. I also don't expect you to reply with anything pertaining to this email since you lack the intelligence required to answer questions. I was upset because he told me to e-mail him and not once has he explained why the trigger happy ban button was hit. So I decided alright this is the last e-mail, I will give him a tip.. don’t unban people and tell them to post on fh if you don’t want them to. I do admit he didn’t post the e-mail in the admin forum.. no.. he posted it here. Well, I better post the rest before it becomes spin material. His response: dude, get out of your house... i never unbanned you... not sure who did... deal with it and go away. Go find another site. Even the people YOU think are your friends email me with comments like, "no matter what, just let Trine go away".....sad.... so... just go away.... you have nothing to gain or win here. You can insult me all you want... you can call me whatever you want...but do you really think i care? NO. Some day you will understand.... He never unbanned me? Wait.. scratches head* What was that picture posted up there? Oh wait.. he did unban me but banned me then someone else unbanned me and he banned me? This starts to get confusing. I have only been banned twice. Once from my request and then he unbanned me, then the banning after 1 post. shrug Also.. who are these people that don’t want me on FH? My friends don’t want me on FH? Then who are these *****s that keep msging me asking when I will be on FH. I’m confused Jeff! My response: clearly you are the one flipping out about all this, since you repeatedly keep telling me to get a life. I have people who have told me that it was you who unbanned me though, following a thread about unbanning lobby, don't bull it. Who are these people that you think are my friends? I really doubt any of the people you think are my friends are even my friends... but this is typical of you. You always assume. It doesn't matter, I guess this is the best way for you to save your face. Its cool man. KEIRA KNIGHTLEY FOREVER! There were 2 more e-mails. One where I showed the pic of him saying in the admin forum he unbanned me. (which he said he never did) and him replying jackass, that was the first time. Then you came back and played your dumb game.. I have no idea who unbanned you the other day causing all this again...That is when I had to ban all your accounts, something I didn't do the first time. god you are stupid. lobby was also unbanned and then banned. *, you were here for how long? So of course we were going to give you a shot again. You sure are bored eh? Well, write back soon... this is entertaining. I do admit, at least he didn't ban this account so I can get my reply in. so kudos for that Last edited by vaultofkeira : 06-11-2006 at 11:28 PM.*

06-11-2006, 11:38 PM	#19 (permalink)
Jeff The Former Owner - now just a poster! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 3,169 My Profile	I really have no response... you stated the facts... not sure why you did this since in my eyes it shows you acted poorly by "forcing a ban"... should have just left. Again, you are making a deal out of "my stating I did or didn't unban you"... yes, i did, a long time ago... but as i posted in the admin forum, i thought you would change. so I -rebanned you because well, in my eyes, you did not. My comment of "never unbanning you" was in reference to the other day when you used your other account (and trinex was logged in too), thus, looking like someone unbanned you which is what I meant and tried to explain. I was stating that I never unbanned you...the second time. If I was really pissed, I would't have asked you to email me to discuss.... of course your email was not the "hug and make up" i was expecting. If you want to know why I am "trigger happy" it is because you went on a total rage of spam. Insults, swears, just awful stuff. It was a total different trine and so of course i was on the watch... My smug comment was my attempt to just walk away. End the conversation. This is honestly the most adult like conversation you and I have had in months... If this had occured back when this all blew up, we might have avoided all of this.