Linux Mint or Ubuntu?

CaseyM · 03-16-2008, 01:28 AM

I hope there are some Linux users here. I'm a Linux chick.

But I've been debating whether I should go with Ubuntu or Linux Mint, any suggestions?

**mced** · 03-20-2008, 12:27 PM

First time I've heard about Mint, I'm getting old

If you're new into this world, I guess you're not going to find big differences. According to Wikipedia, Mint is an Ubuntu based distro. Anyway, try both of them and then choose.

I have (K)Ubuntu installed on my laptop and it's starting to do... weird things.

Captain Beefheart · 03-21-2008, 01:51 AM

Ubuntu is the most friendly desktop Linux distro I've ever seen. The tools that are fairly well developed in Linux are the ones that most users actually use for productivity. Anyone with specific needs, like sound and video editing, shouldn't look for other platform for those. The average user that wants to check email and maybe do a school assignment shouldn't find Linux too confusing (so long as it's setup right).

Here's a good articles on the differences with Mint:

http://www.linux.com/articles/60538

Hope that helps Casey.

mced: Os estáis encontrando con algún tipo de problema en que sentido? PC or portátil.? Se me ocurre, así a priori: Problemas de plugins/drivers/hardware? Ejemplo: al iniciar el sistema se atasca tratando de comprobar la cámara (failed to configure camera...) y no arranca, y te entra en un extraño bucle infinito?

Mi opinión personal es que si no juegas mucho y no te importa perder un poco de tiempo configurando periféricos hay que pasarse a Lnux ya. Con el hardware más típico (gráfica, impresora, monitor,...) no deberías tener muchos problemas. Y con el hardware más específico pues buscando un poco también se termina configurando.

Un saludo y un abrazo.

**mced** · 03-21-2008, 04:16 AM

Thanks for the hints, Captain. I'm working with Linux since 2001, and now have installed Debian on my desktop PC and my file server.

Because this laptop is pretty new, Debian stable was no suitable (too old packages), so I was going to install unstable when I thought "What about Ubuntu? Let's have a look".

Weird things have started to happen when my desktop has died and I've been forced to work with this laptop more frecuently.

IE, the console. It's hard to explain: it seems it's late for every command. When I make a directory called "foo", it succeeds, but tells me something like "impossible to make foo, it exists yet". When I do apt-getting, it often fails because it's occuped.

I guess I'm gonna switch to Debian unstable.

Captain Beefheart · 03-21-2008, 04:43 AM

La verdad es que lo que comentas me suena muy raro. Yo tengo Ubuntu en el portátil y Kubuntu en el sobremesa, ambos a la versión 7.10, y no he tenido ningún problema. Prueba a ejecutar dmesg en una consola después de uno de estos cuelgues (te muestra los mensajes del núcleo) y mira las últimas líneas a ver si te puede dar alguna pista.

Per cert, la crema de la crema de la frikez de Linux se halla aquí.

http://www.ubuntu-es.org/index.php?q=forum/31

Otro foro de ayuda(Debian)=

http://www.esdebian.org/forum/

En cualquier caso incluso deberiaís probar la nueva versión de Gnome (aunque sólo sea para ponerla a parir con conocimiento de causa), porque es algo tecnológicamente bastante nuevo. No es un simple "lavado de cara", sino una reescritura de cero de toda la maquinaria que corre por debajo.

My girlfriend, who is only mildly better with computers than the average user, used KDE exclusively for a full 6 months. She preferred it over Windows. The only reason why she switched back is because her school and a website or two that she visited buy into the MS lock-in scheme. If we'd had a Mac and no install of Windows she would've just had to drop the online classes and not use certain websites that she wanted to. It's bad enough that I was forced to setup grub to go to Windows by default. ARGHH.

**mced** · 03-21-2008, 11:24 AM

About your girlfriend's problem, try this:

IES4Linux

It seems those weird console issues have vanished. Reason? I had running three konsoles with a root account and they seemed to come into conflict between themselves. Why the hell do my system boots up and starts running root shells without my permission? I don't know. Funny thing.

Good try, but I don't like Gnome ;) Just a matter of tastes. KDE on my laptop and desktop, Fluxbox on my file server.

Debería amonestarte por no hablar en el idioma oficial de Fanhost, que es el inglés; al fin y al cabo, soy el moderador ;) Un saludo y gracias.

03-16-2008, 01:28 AM	#1 (permalink)
CaseyM Ain't you the lucky one? Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 134 My Profile	Linux Mint or Ubuntu? I hope there are some Linux users here. I'm a Linux chick. But I've been debating whether I should go with Ubuntu or Linux Mint, any suggestions?

03-21-2008, 01:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
Captain Beefheart Mu nótahu Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In a West End town, a dead end world Posts: 3,662 My Profile	Ubuntu is the most friendly desktop Linux distro I've ever seen. The tools that are fairly well developed in Linux are the ones that most users actually use for productivity. Anyone with specific needs, like sound and video editing, shouldn't look for other platform for those. The average user that wants to check email and maybe do a school assignment shouldn't find Linux too confusing (so long as it's setup right). Here's a good articles on the differences with Mint: http://www.linux.com/articles/60538 Hope that helps Casey. mced: Os estáis encontrando con algún tipo de problema en que sentido? PC or portátil.? Se me ocurre, así a priori: Problemas de plugins/drivers/hardware? Ejemplo: al iniciar el sistema se atasca tratando de comprobar la cámara (failed to configure camera...) y no arranca, y te entra en un extraño bucle infinito? Mi opinión personal es que si no juegas mucho y no te importa perder un poco de tiempo configurando periféricos hay que pasarse a Lnux ya. Con el hardware más típico (gráfica, impresora, monitor,...) no deberías tener muchos problemas. Y con el hardware más específico pues buscando un poco también se termina configurando. Un saludo y un abrazo. Last edited by Captain Beefheart : 03-21-2008 at 02:44 AM.

03-21-2008, 04:43 AM	#5 (permalink)
Captain Beefheart Mu nótahu Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In a West End town, a dead end world Posts: 3,662 My Profile	La verdad es que lo que comentas me suena muy raro. Yo tengo Ubuntu en el portátil y Kubuntu en el sobremesa, ambos a la versión 7.10, y no he tenido ningún problema. Prueba a ejecutar dmesg en una consola después de uno de estos cuelgues (te muestra los mensajes del núcleo) y mira las últimas líneas a ver si te puede dar alguna pista. Per cert, la crema de la crema de la frikez de Linux se halla aquí. http://www.ubuntu-es.org/index.php?q=forum/31 Otro foro de ayuda(Debian)= http://www.esdebian.org/forum/ En cualquier caso incluso deberiaís probar la nueva versión de Gnome (aunque sólo sea para ponerla a parir con conocimiento de causa), porque es algo tecnológicamente bastante nuevo. No es un simple "lavado de cara", sino una reescritura de cero de toda la maquinaria que corre por debajo. My girlfriend, who is only mildly better with computers than the average user, used KDE exclusively for a full 6 months. She preferred it over Windows. The only reason why she switched back is because her school and a website or two that she visited buy into the MS lock-in scheme. If we'd had a Mac and no install of Windows she would've just had to drop the online classes and not use certain websites that she wanted to. It's bad enough that I was forced to setup grub to go to Windows by default. ARGHH. Last edited by Captain Beefheart : 03-21-2008 at 04:50 AM.

03-20-2008, 12:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
mced Cannot live without Love Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Spain Posts: 1,991 My Profile	First time I've heard about Mint, I'm getting old If you're new into this world, I guess you're not going to find big differences. According to Wikipedia, Mint is an Ubuntu based distro. Anyway, try both of them and then choose. I have (K)Ubuntu installed on my laptop and it's starting to do... weird things.

03-21-2008, 04:16 AM	#4 (permalink)
mced Cannot live without Love Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Spain Posts: 1,991 My Profile	Thanks for the hints, Captain. I'm working with Linux since 2001, and now have installed Debian on my desktop PC and my file server. Because this laptop is pretty new, Debian stable was no suitable (too old packages), so I was going to install unstable when I thought "What about Ubuntu? Let's have a look". Weird things have started to happen when my desktop has died and I've been forced to work with this laptop more frecuently. IE, the console. It's hard to explain: it seems it's late for every command. When I make a directory called "foo", it succeeds, but tells me something like "impossible to make foo, it exists yet". When I do apt-getting, it often fails because it's occuped. I guess I'm gonna switch to Debian unstable.

03-21-2008, 11:24 AM	#6 (permalink)
mced Cannot live without Love Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Spain Posts: 1,991 My Profile	About your girlfriend's problem, try this: IES4Linux It seems those weird console issues have vanished. Reason? I had running three konsoles with a root account and they seemed to come into conflict between themselves. Why the hell do my system boots up and starts running root shells without my permission? I don't know. Funny thing. Good try, but I don't like Gnome ;) Just a matter of tastes. KDE on my laptop and desktop, Fluxbox on my file server. Debería amonestarte por no hablar en el idioma oficial de Fanhost, que es el inglés; al fin y al cabo, soy el moderador ;) Un saludo y gracias.

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