NFL Playoff thread - Page 4

Mo · 01-21-2008, 10:18 AM

Yea i agree don't think he will retire & have his last moment an Int...
Tho Favre is a weird one...
Btw is there anyone out there going to give Eli & a giants a chance???

**Ophelia** · 01-21-2008, 11:45 AM

Hmmm...I give him props for what he's done this season, but I don't think they will win against the Pats. Corey Webster (Geaux Tigers, LSU Alumni!) gets the game ball IMO.

edawg99 · 01-21-2008, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mo

Yea i agree don't think he will retire & have his last moment an Int...
Tho Favre is a weird one...
Btw is there anyone out there going to give Eli & a giants a chance???

I'll give them a chance, they played some pretty good football in the playoffs so far but if they want to beat Pats they have to make FG's and not drop so many passes. I thought for sure GB would blow them away but Eli had a soild game, the defence played great. If the Giants can beat GB why can't they beat the Pats.

Ox · 01-21-2008, 12:41 PM

Yea i agree don't think he will retire & have his last moment an Int...

That was my thought the instance the game ended. No way does he want to be remembered by that. Plus the Packers are young and should return next year in good shape for another run.

Btw is there anyone out there going to give Eli & a giants a chance???

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Captain Beefheart · 01-21-2008, 05:20 PM

If the spread is still 14 pnts come the Superbowl, I will happily lay a grand on the G-men. Of course there's a good possibility the Pats will orchestrate a blowout in the arizona weather, but I don't think the game is going to go in that direction.

Aside from the Pats wideouts vs. the Giants secondary, there are no real mismatches, and these teams match up well. The Giants have to take an early lead and try to dictate the action, if they can manage to squeeze one or two touchdowns instead of 4 field goals everytime they're in the redzone they have a chance.

SimplyDenzel · 01-21-2008, 05:37 PM

Dan Marino went out on a 62-7 loss in the playoffs, so it's not unthinkable for Favre to be finished this year.

Osama McDonald · 01-21-2008, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Beefheart

If the spread is still 14 pnts come the Superbowl, I will happily lay a grand on the G-men. Of course there's a good possibility the Pats will orchestrate a blowout in the arizona weather, but I don't think the game is going to go in that direction.

Aside from the Pats wideouts vs. the Giants secondary, there are no real mismatches, and these teams match up well. The Giants have to take an early lead and try to dictate the action, if they can manage to squeeze one or two touchdowns instead of 4 field goals everytime they're in the redzone they have a chance.

The Giants have won and covered ten straight road games.....and will play on the road again. 14 points is a gift. The pats haven't covered in the playoffs yet....and won't in the SB. They are not the dominant team they were for the first half of the season.....plus the Giants have only gotten better. The patriots have only won 1 game by more than 14 points in their last seven years in the playoffs which is 13 games in the Brady era. Patriots don't dominate playoff games...they just win. Patriots are a sucker bet. Take the Giants just like I said the Chargers. I will be betting $2000.

And as for Bret Favre......he is the second most over-rated player after Peyton the choke Manning. He should retire. WHy stay around another year? What....so he can go 8-8 next year. He will never have a better chance than he did this year. He didn't even have to go to DAllas.....he had the NFC championship at home and blew it for his team. He is old and the cold got to him. He just isn't a clutch QB as far as I'm concerned. He tries to force too many passes thinking his arm strength will get it done. Go get hopped up on pain pills and steroids Favre your career is done.

Captain Beefheart · 01-21-2008, 11:11 PM

Manning isn't overrated, he might have been before winning a Super Bowl but that stigma is long over. I wonder how you might have felt if he was in Brady's shoes yesterday(3 INT, 210 yds). Unlike Payton he didn't have the luxury of his defense actually stepping up and saving face for him. You just watch, Brady is going to end up a Bobby Fischer once he doesn't have the best players and the best coach surrounding him. He will go the way of Jim Everett if they ever throw the team out to sea.

And I don't really get the Favre hate, yes he's overexposed but blame the media for romantisizing their sport stars. What does he do in the off-season? Retreats away from everything to his quiet home life. It's everyone else that blows everything he does up.

Osama McDonald · 01-21-2008, 11:26 PM

Manning IS over-rated. So what if he won a SB. He has choked away so many big games that he should have won it's ridiculous. The Colts were a double digit home favorite....who played a banged up Chargers team. Rivers and Tpmlinson were out in the last half of the game....and they still couldn't get it done. Manning had the last two drives to come through and as usual he didn't. Just because he finally won a SB....doesn't mean he isn't the crappiest big game quarterback ever.

As for Brady's shaky game.....so f ucking what. How many big plays/games/drives has Brady come through on in the playoffs? You won't find a more clutch QB EVER....EVER.

Captain Beefheart · 01-21-2008, 11:41 PM

The divisional game isn't on him at all. The defense let the Chargers score at will even with backups. In that sense it shouldn't have come down to a last drive to win a game at home. The 2 INTs were tipped and he threw the last pass to Clark pretty much right in his hands but he couldn't hold on., not to mention that Wayne and Harrison were out for that final play.

Brady on the other hand isn't an amorphous cloud who's control is so huge he can actually prevent the Chargers from scoring on what 4 redzone occasions? All resulting in FG's and SD playing from behind all day long. So unless you mean to tell me that Tom Brady is such the goat that he can actually control things which aren't even up to his domain then I could understand the thinking about a two time MPV(correct), and previous TD record holder, plus Superbowl winner being overrated.

Mo · 01-21-2008, 11:53 PM

Heheheh,Watching most us sports shows it seems it's already over hand the bowl to the Pats...

Ox · 01-22-2008, 12:34 AM

They are not the dominant team they were for the first half of the season.....plus the Giants have only gotten better.

I've noticed both trends too. The pats just seem to find a way to pull out the close games.

As for Farve, I like him. Year in year out he plays and performs. He's no where near as good as he was in the 90's, but i never hear him ***** or complain much or demand to be traded just because his team is lousy.

I thought when the Giants missed that last second field goal in regulation that Farve would somehow pull it out in OT....you know storybook like....

01-21-2008, 11:11 PM	#68 (permalink)
Captain Beefheart Mu nótahu Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In a West End town, a dead end world Posts: 4,109 My Profile	Manning isn't overrated, he might have been before winning a Super Bowl but that stigma is long over. I wonder how you might have felt if he was in Brady's shoes yesterday(3 INT, 210 yds). Unlike Payton he didn't have the luxury of his defense actually stepping up and saving face for him. You just watch, Brady is going to end up a Bobby Fischer once he doesn't have the best players and the best coach surrounding him. He will go the way of Jim Everett if they ever throw the team out to sea. And I don't really get the Favre hate, yes he's overexposed but blame the media for romantisizing their sport stars. What does he do in the off-season? Retreats away from everything to his quiet home life. It's everyone else that blows everything he does up. Last edited by Captain Beefheart : 01-21-2008 at 11:19 PM.

01-21-2008, 11:41 PM	#70 (permalink)
Captain Beefheart Mu nótahu Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In a West End town, a dead end world Posts: 4,109 My Profile	The divisional game isn't on him at all. The defense let the Chargers score at will even with backups. In that sense it shouldn't have come down to a last drive to win a game at home. The 2 INTs were tipped and he threw the last pass to Clark pretty much right in his hands but he couldn't hold on., not to mention that Wayne and Harrison were out for that final play. Brady on the other hand isn't an amorphous cloud who's control is so huge he can actually prevent the Chargers from scoring on what 4 redzone occasions? All resulting in FG's and SD playing from behind all day long. So unless you mean to tell me that Tom Brady is such the goat that he can actually control things which aren't even up to his domain then I could understand the thinking about a two time MPV(correct), and previous TD record holder, plus Superbowl winner being overrated. Last edited by Captain Beefheart : 01-21-2008 at 11:48 PM.

01-22-2008, 12:34 AM	#72 (permalink)
Ox Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Metro/Detroit USA Posts: 2,118 My Profile	They are not the dominant team they were for the first half of the season.....plus the Giants have only gotten better. I've noticed both trends too. The pats just seem to find a way to pull out the close games. As for Farve, I like him. Year in year out he plays and performs. He's no where near as good as he was in the 90's, but i never hear him ***** or complain much or demand to be traded just because his team is lousy. I thought when the Giants missed that last second field goal in regulation that Farve would somehow pull it out in OT....you know storybook like.... Last edited by Ox : 01-22-2008 at 12:38 AM.

01-21-2008, 10:18 AM	#61 (permalink)
Mo LH/FH.Com 0ld Skool Join Date: May 2000 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,449 My Profile	Yea i agree don't think he will retire & have his last moment an Int... Tho Favre is a weird one... Btw is there anyone out there going to give Eli & a giants a chance???

01-21-2008, 11:45 AM	#62 (permalink)
Ophelia JOHO Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Joshtopia Posts: 7,245 My Profile	Hmmm...I give him props for what he's done this season, but I don't think they will win against the Pats. Corey Webster (Geaux Tigers, LSU Alumni!) gets the game ball IMO.

01-21-2008, 12:41 PM	#64 (permalink)
Ox Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Metro/Detroit USA Posts: 2,118 My Profile	Yea i agree don't think he will retire & have his last moment an Int... That was my thought the instance the game ended. No way does he want to be remembered by that. Plus the Packers are young and should return next year in good shape for another run. Btw is there anyone out there going to give Eli & a giants a chance??? Hello! Here I am!

01-21-2008, 05:20 PM	#65 (permalink)
Captain Beefheart Mu nótahu Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In a West End town, a dead end world Posts: 4,109 My Profile	If the spread is still 14 pnts come the Superbowl, I will happily lay a grand on the G-men. Of course there's a good possibility the Pats will orchestrate a blowout in the arizona weather, but I don't think the game is going to go in that direction. Aside from the Pats wideouts vs. the Giants secondary, there are no real mismatches, and these teams match up well. The Giants have to take an early lead and try to dictate the action, if they can manage to squeeze one or two touchdowns instead of 4 field goals everytime they're in the redzone they have a chance.

01-21-2008, 05:37 PM	#66 (permalink)
SimplyDenzel Newbie Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 17 My Profile	Dan Marino went out on a 62-7 loss in the playoffs, so it's not unthinkable for Favre to be finished this year.

01-21-2008, 11:26 PM	#69 (permalink)
Osama McDonald Saddam Disney Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 55 My Profile	Manning IS over-rated. So what if he won a SB. He has choked away so many big games that he should have won it's ridiculous. The Colts were a double digit home favorite....who played a banged up Chargers team. Rivers and Tpmlinson were out in the last half of the game....and they still couldn't get it done. Manning had the last two drives to come through and as usual he didn't. Just because he finally won a SB....doesn't mean he isn't the crappiest big game quarterback ever. As for Brady's shaky game.....so f ucking what. How many big plays/games/drives has Brady come through on in the playoffs? You won't find a more clutch QB EVER....EVER.

01-21-2008, 11:53 PM	#71 (permalink)
Mo LH/FH.Com 0ld Skool Join Date: May 2000 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,449 My Profile	Heheheh,Watching most us sports shows it seems it's already over hand the bowl to the Pats...

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