Thoughts on 12/3 Raw

Mat · 12-04-2007, 12:16 AM

MARIA & MICKIE JAMES vs. MELINA & BETH PHOENIX Missed it but read it was short

UMAGA vs. CHRIS JERICHO It was a ok match for tv

HORNSWOGGLE vs. COACH & CARLITO ...........

JEFF HARDY vs. SNITSKY Crowd was dead for this. Match itself was soso.

RANDY ORTON vs. SHAWN MICHAELS *Sigh*, not like I havent seen these guys over and over.

Raw tonight was "ok". I wasnt too bored with it. Its been much work. Nice to see Steph.

I look forward to next week though.

TRISH!!!

**SMG Rules** · 12-04-2007, 12:28 AM

I can't wait to see Trish next week! I would love for this to lead to a come-back but I'm not getting my hopes up. Hulk Hogan is boring and I have no intrest in seeing him again. Same goes for Mick Foley.

I think Vince has something big planned. When he and steph(always love seeing her) were talking he said if anyone had a problem with him being on his show they could go to hell. Could this have anything to do with the rumor of a big return? I didn't figure they would even show Kurt Angle and Booker T on the screen as one of the "best superstar in raw history" since most of the time when people go to TNA they act like they were never there.

Oh how I hope we get to see Trish in a match next week!

Mat · 12-04-2007, 01:06 AM

I doubt trish will be in a match. I can see her having a stare off or something. She did get the biggest pop of the night, even over Hogan.

I was shocked to see Booker/Angle on-screen also. They'll say HHH, Stone Cold or the Rock will be be the best star

**SMG Rules** · 12-04-2007, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mat

I doubt trish will be in a match. I can see her having a stare off or something. She did get the biggest pop of the night, even over Hogan.

I know but I REALLY miss Trish so I always have hope. She was my favorite diva off all time.

Mat · 12-04-2007, 01:17 AM

Molly is my favorite diva of all time but Trish is right next to her

**SMG Rules** · 12-04-2007, 01:33 AM

The match between HHH/Hardy at the PPV is now for the #1 contenders spot for the WWE title. I think there is about zero chance HHH puts Hardy over in this one. Sorry to say the same thing I did last week but there in no point at all of HHH getting the win.

Mat · 12-04-2007, 02:04 AM

It would be nice if Hardy won, but I doubt it also.

rlm · 12-04-2007, 05:04 AM

am i the only one that thinks that jeff hardy is going to win? i have a feeling that HHH is going to let hardy beat him. maybe there's something else going on here that no one knows about yet. this involves triple h losing to hardy and maybe eventually leading to his heel turn. i see hardy winning with triple h looking shocked at the end of the matchl. he can't believe he's been beat. he feels he's gotten soft so he attacks hardy even after he's lost. this leads to a hardy/hhh fued which probably won't last long and then HHH having another fued after that will lead to him getting the title back.

also i was very much like the crowd while watching raw......dead. that was until stephanie showed up. i really woke up at that point..too bad it was at the end of the show. also when vince started to list the superstars that were going to be on the show next week, i didn't believe him. i've heard stuff about stone cold and the rock but nothing on trish or hogan. hogan, really? with all the problems he's having now he's going to show up? i'll believe it when i see it, that goes with trish too.

also i think vince will declare himself the best superstar of all time.

stuff

There were two stories going around backstage in TNA in regards to Rhino’s absence at TNA Turning Point. One was that he had a neck injury, the other was that there was a personal issue he had to take care of.

Early reports say that Scott Hall claimed “food poisoning” as to why he didn’t show up at the TNA Turning Point PPV last night. TNA had been working for weeks promoting the return of The Outsiders at the PPV. Hall’s no-show lead to a huge shoot promo from Samoa Joe at the end of the show. "Scott Hall punked out on me and on every single fan in this building tonight,” said Joe. He said there are TNA die-hards who bust their asses for the fans every week and there are superstars who think they come and do whatever they want, however they feel like it, and screw the hard-working guys and fans of TNA. Earlier in the show Joe sent another shot at Hall saying that he “probably couldn’t pass the breathalyzer in his car to get to the arena.”

D.H. Smith made his return at the RAW Live event in Savannah, Georgia last night defeating Santino Marella. It's likely we will see D.H. on RAW tonight.

Wade Keller is reporting that TNA President Dixie Carter held a meeting today offering everyone in the company their release if they wanted it. Only Senshi (aka Low Ki) took up Carter's offer.

Therefore it appears as if Senshi is finished with TNA Wrestling.

The last time a TNA official/wrestler had any voice contact with Scott Hall was on Sunday morning. Concern started to grow as the day went on that he was going to no-show the pay-per-view event because he didn't show up at the building, not to mention that he wasn't answering his phone. There was even hope among people in TNA that he'd at least show up while the show was going on. Last night, Hall sent a text message or voice mail saying he had food poisoning and that he wasn't going to be able to make the event.

- Kevin Nash was said to disappointed with Hall no-showing the event. He was really let down by Hall.

Management told Samoa Joe to go the ring last night to cut a promo on Scott Hall to take the heat off of the company for a major star no-showing a pay-per-view. They wanted him to put over the guys on the roster and then to introduce Eric Young as his replacement partner. Joe's promo went about five minutes longer than originally planned not to mention that it incorporated a lot more content, especially aimed at Kevin Nash, than was planned.

- During the promo, Joe leaned over the top rope and asked someone off camera if they were mad at him. Apparently, he looked over at TNA President Dixie Carter -- who was sitting in the audience -- shrugged and said, "Go ahead and fire me, I don't care." As you can imagine, Carter was legitimately upset with him "going into business for himself" and taking so long with his promo. Furthermore, Kevin Nash was legitimately upset that Joe turned Scott Hall's no-show into a rant against him for some reason.

- Nash returned to the back right away after the match had concluded. He was waiting for Joe to show up so he could confront him about his comments. When Joe got backstage, Nash confronted him and a heated verbal exchange with some shoving ensued between the two. Joe soon backed down to prevent the situation from escalating.

- Joe gave an emotional apology at today's all-talent meeting as he felt he went overboard with his promo from the night before. He said he hoped his apology would be accepted.

Mo · 12-04-2007, 09:28 AM

Dam with all the web sites online these dayz it's amazing that nobody has called who the Big star to return will be...
& i agree with rlm i see Vince will declare himself the best superstar of all time.

**SMG Rules** · 12-05-2007, 12:50 AM

Well it sucks that we won't be seeing the Rock Monday.

Mat · 12-05-2007, 12:56 AM

Hes like Stacy, doesnt care about wrestling fans anymore.

**SMG Rules** · 12-05-2007, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mat

Hes like Stacy, doesnt care about wrestling fans anymore.

I know he's a busy man with his movies and all but he couldn't take one night and show up for the company that made him who he is?

Mat · 12-05-2007, 01:06 AM

Yeah many wrestling fans seem to think the same. Its really annoying. But whatever, we get Hogan!!! *note sarcasim*.

**SMG Rules** · 12-05-2007, 01:28 AM

I hope they don't announce that John Cena is the best superstar in Raw history. If they do I might have to slap someone.

Mat · 12-05-2007, 01:42 AM

I hope it isnt cena OR HHH

**SMG Rules** · 12-05-2007, 03:07 AM

Is it just me or do the WWE fans(atleast the ones at RAW) seem not to give a crap about Y2J. I was expecting a big pop everytime he comes out but people just don't seem to care.

Mo · 12-05-2007, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SMG Rules

Is it just me or do the WWE fans(atleast the ones at RAW) seem not to give a crap about Y2J. I was expecting a big pop everytime he comes out but people just don't seem to care.

I agree it seems everyone already over it...
Btw whos picked the biggest RAw superstar ever? What it a fan poll? or just what Vince thinks...

Mat · 12-05-2007, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SMG Rules

Is it just me or do the WWE fans(atleast the ones at RAW) seem not to give a crap about Y2J. I was expecting a big pop everytime he comes out but people just don't seem to care.

Thats what many fans are talking about on forums. His reaction isnt a big deal like it was and many think its stupid to thrust him in the main event so soon.

And mo, no idea.

**SMG Rules** · 12-05-2007, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mo

I agree it seems everyone already over it...
Btw whos picked the biggest RAw superstar ever? What it a fan poll? or just what Vince thinks...

I think it's just what Vince thinks. Get ready for him to say that he's the best superstar in Raw history.

**SMG Rules** · 12-06-2007, 12:13 AM

Word is that WWE is trying to talk Carlito into staying with the company.

Making someone job to hornswoggle isn't exactly what I would do if I were trying to convince someone to stay.

12-04-2007, 12:16 AM	#1 (permalink)
Mat Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 1,030 My Profile	Thoughts on 12/3 Raw MARIA & MICKIE JAMES vs. MELINA & BETH PHOENIX Missed it but read it was short UMAGA vs. CHRIS JERICHO It was a ok match for tv HORNSWOGGLE vs. COACH & CARLITO ........... JEFF HARDY vs. SNITSKY Crowd was dead for this. Match itself was soso. RANDY ORTON vs. SHAWN MICHAELS Sigh, not like I havent seen these guys over and over. Raw tonight was "ok". I wasnt too bored with it. Its been much work. Nice to see Steph. I look forward to next week though. TRISH!!!

12-04-2007, 12:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
SMG Rules The Wicked One Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA Posts: 764 My Profile	I can't wait to see Trish next week! I would love for this to lead to a come-back but I'm not getting my hopes up. Hulk Hogan is boring and I have no intrest in seeing him again. Same goes for Mick Foley. I think Vince has something big planned. When he and steph(always love seeing her) were talking he said if anyone had a problem with him being on his show they could go to hell. Could this have anything to do with the rumor of a big return? I didn't figure they would even show Kurt Angle and Booker T on the screen as one of the "best superstar in raw history" since most of the time when people go to TNA they act like they were never there. Oh how I hope we get to see Trish in a match next week! Last edited by SMG Rules : 12-04-2007 at 12:30 AM.

12-04-2007, 01:06 AM	#3 (permalink)
Mat Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 1,030 My Profile	I doubt trish will be in a match. I can see her having a stare off or something. She did get the biggest pop of the night, even over Hogan. I was shocked to see Booker/Angle on-screen also. They'll say HHH, Stone Cold or the Rock will be be the best star

12-04-2007, 01:17 AM	#5 (permalink)
Mat Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 1,030 My Profile	Molly is my favorite diva of all time but Trish is right next to her

12-04-2007, 01:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
SMG Rules The Wicked One Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA Posts: 764 My Profile	The match between HHH/Hardy at the PPV is now for the #1 contenders spot for the WWE title. I think there is about zero chance HHH puts Hardy over in this one. Sorry to say the same thing I did last week but there in no point at all of HHH getting the win.

12-04-2007, 02:04 AM	#7 (permalink)
Mat Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 1,030 My Profile	It would be nice if Hardy won, but I doubt it also.

12-04-2007, 05:04 AM	#8 (permalink)
rlm Member of Sylar's Army Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: tx Posts: 1,992 My Profile	am i the only one that thinks that jeff hardy is going to win? i have a feeling that HHH is going to let hardy beat him. maybe there's something else going on here that no one knows about yet. this involves triple h losing to hardy and maybe eventually leading to his heel turn. i see hardy winning with triple h looking shocked at the end of the matchl. he can't believe he's been beat. he feels he's gotten soft so he attacks hardy even after he's lost. this leads to a hardy/hhh fued which probably won't last long and then HHH having another fued after that will lead to him getting the title back. also i was very much like the crowd while watching raw......dead. that was until stephanie showed up. i really woke up at that point..too bad it was at the end of the show. also when vince started to list the superstars that were going to be on the show next week, i didn't believe him. i've heard stuff about stone cold and the rock but nothing on trish or hogan. hogan, really? with all the problems he's having now he's going to show up? i'll believe it when i see it, that goes with trish too. also i think vince will declare himself the best superstar of all time. stuff There were two stories going around backstage in TNA in regards to Rhino’s absence at TNA Turning Point. One was that he had a neck injury, the other was that there was a personal issue he had to take care of. Early reports say that Scott Hall claimed “food poisoning” as to why he didn’t show up at the TNA Turning Point PPV last night. TNA had been working for weeks promoting the return of The Outsiders at the PPV. Hall’s no-show lead to a huge shoot promo from Samoa Joe at the end of the show. "Scott Hall punked out on me and on every single fan in this building tonight,” said Joe. He said there are TNA die-hards who bust their asses for the fans every week and there are superstars who think they come and do whatever they want, however they feel like it, and screw the hard-working guys and fans of TNA. Earlier in the show Joe sent another shot at Hall saying that he “probably couldn’t pass the breathalyzer in his car to get to the arena.” D.H. Smith made his return at the RAW Live event in Savannah, Georgia last night defeating Santino Marella. It's likely we will see D.H. on RAW tonight. Wade Keller is reporting that TNA President Dixie Carter held a meeting today offering everyone in the company their release if they wanted it. Only Senshi (aka Low Ki) took up Carter's offer. Therefore it appears as if Senshi is finished with TNA Wrestling. The last time a TNA official/wrestler had any voice contact with Scott Hall was on Sunday morning. Concern started to grow as the day went on that he was going to no-show the pay-per-view event because he didn't show up at the building, not to mention that he wasn't answering his phone. There was even hope among people in TNA that he'd at least show up while the show was going on. Last night, Hall sent a text message or voice mail saying he had food poisoning and that he wasn't going to be able to make the event. - Kevin Nash was said to disappointed with Hall no-showing the event. He was really let down by Hall. Management told Samoa Joe to go the ring last night to cut a promo on Scott Hall to take the heat off of the company for a major star no-showing a pay-per-view. They wanted him to put over the guys on the roster and then to introduce Eric Young as his replacement partner. Joe's promo went about five minutes longer than originally planned not to mention that it incorporated a lot more content, especially aimed at Kevin Nash, than was planned. - During the promo, Joe leaned over the top rope and asked someone off camera if they were mad at him. Apparently, he looked over at TNA President Dixie Carter -- who was sitting in the audience -- shrugged and said, "Go ahead and fire me, I don't care." As you can imagine, Carter was legitimately upset with him "going into business for himself" and taking so long with his promo. Furthermore, Kevin Nash was legitimately upset that Joe turned Scott Hall's no-show into a rant against him for some reason. - Nash returned to the back right away after the match had concluded. He was waiting for Joe to show up so he could confront him about his comments. When Joe got backstage, Nash confronted him and a heated verbal exchange with some shoving ensued between the two. Joe soon backed down to prevent the situation from escalating. - Joe gave an emotional apology at today's all-talent meeting as he felt he went overboard with his promo from the night before. He said he hoped his apology would be accepted.

12-04-2007, 09:28 AM	#9 (permalink)
Mo LH/FH.Com 0ld Skool Join Date: May 2000 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,307 My Profile	Dam with all the web sites online these dayz it's amazing that nobody has called who the Big star to return will be... & i agree with rlm i see Vince will declare himself the best superstar of all time.

12-05-2007, 12:50 AM	#10 (permalink)
SMG Rules The Wicked One Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA Posts: 764 My Profile	Well it sucks that we won't be seeing the Rock Monday.

12-05-2007, 12:56 AM	#11 (permalink)
Mat Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 1,030 My Profile	Hes like Stacy, doesnt care about wrestling fans anymore.

12-05-2007, 01:06 AM	#13 (permalink)
Mat Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 1,030 My Profile	Yeah many wrestling fans seem to think the same. Its really annoying. But whatever, we get Hogan!!! note sarcasim.

12-05-2007, 01:28 AM	#14 (permalink)
SMG Rules The Wicked One Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA Posts: 764 My Profile	I hope they don't announce that John Cena is the best superstar in Raw history. If they do I might have to slap someone.

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12-05-2007, 01:42 AM	#15 (permalink)
Mat Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 1,030 My Profile	I hope it isnt cena OR HHH

12-05-2007, 03:07 AM	#16 (permalink)
SMG Rules The Wicked One Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA Posts: 764 My Profile	Is it just me or do the WWE fans(atleast the ones at RAW) seem not to give a crap about Y2J. I was expecting a big pop everytime he comes out but people just don't seem to care.

12-06-2007, 12:13 AM	#20 (permalink)
SMG Rules The Wicked One Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA Posts: 764 My Profile	Word is that WWE is trying to talk Carlito into staying with the company. Making someone job to hornswoggle isn't exactly what I would do if I were trying to convince someone to stay.