Thoughts on 10/8 Raw

Mat · 10-08-2007, 11:16 PM

BETH PHOENIX & MELINA & JILLIAN HALL vs. CANDICE MICHELLE & MICKIE JAMES & MARIA Ok tv match. Never been a fan of 6 women tag as they get chaotic.

SNITSKY vs. VAL VENIS

RANDY ORTON & UMAGA vs. TRIPLE H Meh

PAUL LONDON & BRIAN KENDRICK vs. THE HIGHLANDERS Ok tag match, nothing amazing.

JEFF HARDY vs. MR. KENNEDY Definitely the match of the night.

Overall raw was soso tonight. I always enjoy Hardy matches. Of course I like all the Lilian showings.

Great to see Shawn back, I wonder if this will end the "saveus" commercials?

**SMG Rules** · 10-09-2007, 12:07 AM

People are saying that the "Save us" promo has nothing to do with HBK. So we will have to wait and see if they show it again.

Hardy/Kennedy was a great match. These two put on a better match than Cena ever did in the main event spot.

I don't know why they even bothered to bring Snitsky back

Great to see HBK back!

Also I love when Candace wears those types of tops she had on tonight and jumps around

rlm · 10-09-2007, 02:37 AM

no the save us ads are still going to be popping up. vince was against bringing in jericho at no mercy cuz he felt it was too early. so those promos will probably keep showing up until cyber sunday where jericho is scheduled to make his return. also they're expecting edge to return sometime around late december or january. john morrison is set come back tonight on ecw though.

Mo · 10-09-2007, 10:11 AM

having HBK back & hopefully Y2J will help Raw no doubt not to mention WWE.
Edge back on SD helps also...

**Gumby** · 10-10-2007, 04:18 AM

Beth Phoenix, Jillian Hall, & Melina vs. Candice Michelle, Mickie James, & Maria

Pretty good match, actually. Beth's music sucks, and I don't like Candice's remix, either. She shouldn't be skipping out to the ring and being all perky and chipper. That's Mickie's thing. She should stick to being the sultry hottie.

Snitsky vs. Val Venis

Snitsky is officially the ugliest human being on the planet. Seriously, gross. Oh, and his music sucks, too. But so does he, so it fits. Val deserves better.

Santino is the funniest heel to come along in a long time, though.

Lilian Sings

I love Lilian, so I can't complain too much. I know they have to promote her CD, but it does take away from the show. I liked Santino's song about The Condemned. Just bring out Stone Cold and have him stun Santino already. We know it's gonna happen.

Randy Orton & Umaga vs. Triple H

Triple H is making up for lost time in the politics department. Not only did he make himself the center of No Mercy, but now he's so powerful that not even the combined might of the monster Umaga and Randy Orton can beat him.

Randy has been on fire as of late. His in-ring style, combined with his cold-blooded psychopath character suits him, and Randy does it all perfectly. He's really stepped it up since being called Blandy Boreton. He still needs a little mic work, but keeping his promos short and sweet should help, especially since, as champion, he'll have to cut more promos.

Paul London & Brian Kendrick vs. The Highlanders

Too short, and the Heelanders aren't really that good. Cade & Murdock are much better. I just wish The Pitbulls and MNM were still around

Those matches were godly.

Jeff Hardy vs. Mr. Kennedy

Good match, but I've come to expect nothing less from Jeff Hardy.

The Return of Shawn Michaels

Didn't care. Michaels is boring unless he's a heel.

Save Us Promo

"2nd Coming."

It's definitely Jericho, but they need to run those during the shows and have people talking about them. Let them interrupt promos or matches (preferably Snitsky's) and let the anticipation build, since most people have figured that it's Jericho, until people are so chanting Y2J all of RAW, then bring him back and watch the building explode.

rlm · 10-10-2007, 09:55 AM

they should have jericho show up on a tv event. raw obviously. if the wwe wants ratings, which they are lacking in as of late, this would get their attention. but they're going to have him show up at cyber sunday. i hate that. it's more exciting on regular tv. michaels showing up was a surprise to many. he was expected to show up somewhere down the line. but it seems that with cena's absence, triple h convinced shawn to come back early to help fill up the gap.

Mo · 10-10-2007, 10:26 AM

It's weird that they will have Y2J show up @ a weak ppv like Cyber sunday.

**SMG Rules** · 10-11-2007, 11:27 PM

Maybe they are going to try a make cyber sunday important by holding off Y2J until then?

Mat · 10-12-2007, 12:10 AM

Thats what ive read

rlm · 10-12-2007, 01:46 AM

anyone notice that they keep messing up lillian's and jillian's names or actually confusing them. seems that a storyline made up by lillian garcia herself is being worked up for the show. where it goes i don't know, only thing is that it's supposed to involve an american idol type scenerio.

also seems the wwe has fired teddy hart. might have something to do with his personality. the remaining new hart foundation is set to debut on smackdown. but there's also talk about them fueding with HBK. a storyline that has them trying to get revenge on him because of the montreal screw job.

Mat · 10-12-2007, 04:45 PM

Im looking forward to the Lilian storyline.

I am gonna be meeting her Oct 17th for a cd signing. I cant wait :D

As for teddy hard, not surprised. Im upset about Krissy leaving.

**SMG Rules** · 10-12-2007, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rlm

there's also talk about them fueding with HBK. a storyline that has them trying to get revenge on him because of the montreal screw job.

It's been what 10 years? People still haven't gotten over that yet.

rlm · 10-13-2007, 03:23 AM

them canadians. when they hold a grudge, they hold a grudge.

**SMG Rules** · 10-13-2007, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rlm

them canadians. when they hold a grudge, they hold a grudge.

You can say that again LOL

Whenever the WWE is in Canada they boo HBK like he shot there mother or something. It's the only place they boo him at.

**Gumby** · 10-13-2007, 09:17 PM

Damn, I wish Krissy hadn't have left. She could have had a nice feud with Torrie. I bet Torrie's pissed, since she took a beating by some chick who will never be seen again.

I've heard that the new Hart Foundation idea has been scrapped due to Teddy Hart's release. I'm surprised they hired the guy in the first place. The man is insane.

Mat · 10-13-2007, 09:31 PM

Ive only seen pics of Teddy, about it. Never even seen a match.

rlm · 10-14-2007, 01:42 AM

i'm taking you never heard of the teddy hart incident? here's a link to the vid. there's a reason why he's not liked at all. he's a showboat and thinks it's all about him. in the vid one of the other wrestlers gets angry at him and tries to stop him by beating him with a belt. but he keeps show boating until he pukes on himself. just watch this vid. also you can check out the other vids on this site its on. its a cool site.

http://www.wrestlinggonewrong.com/vi..._incident.html

**Gumby** · 10-14-2007, 01:49 AM

Teleprompter?

**SMG Rules** · 10-14-2007, 09:49 PM

Thats one of the worst promos I've ever seen LOL

I could do alot better than that.

10-08-2007, 11:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mat Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 1,030 My Profile	Thoughts on 10/8 Raw BETH PHOENIX & MELINA & JILLIAN HALL vs. CANDICE MICHELLE & MICKIE JAMES & MARIA Ok tv match. Never been a fan of 6 women tag as they get chaotic. SNITSKY vs. VAL VENIS RANDY ORTON & UMAGA vs. TRIPLE H Meh PAUL LONDON & BRIAN KENDRICK vs. THE HIGHLANDERS Ok tag match, nothing amazing. JEFF HARDY vs. MR. KENNEDY Definitely the match of the night. Overall raw was soso tonight. I always enjoy Hardy matches. Of course I like all the Lilian showings. Great to see Shawn back, I wonder if this will end the "saveus" commercials?

10-12-2007, 01:46 AM	#10 (permalink)
rlm Member of Sylar's Army Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: tx Posts: 1,992 My Profile	anyone notice that they keep messing up lillian's and jillian's names or actually confusing them. seems that a storyline made up by lillian garcia herself is being worked up for the show. where it goes i don't know, only thing is that it's supposed to involve an american idol type scenerio. also seems the wwe has fired teddy hart. might have something to do with his personality. the remaining new hart foundation is set to debut on smackdown. but there's also talk about them fueding with HBK. a storyline that has them trying to get revenge on him because of the montreal screw job. Last edited by rlm : 10-12-2007 at 02:00 AM.

10-09-2007, 12:07 AM	#2 (permalink)
SMG Rules The Wicked One Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA Posts: 764 My Profile	People are saying that the "Save us" promo has nothing to do with HBK. So we will have to wait and see if they show it again. Hardy/Kennedy was a great match. These two put on a better match than Cena ever did in the main event spot. I don't know why they even bothered to bring Snitsky back Great to see HBK back! Also I love when Candace wears those types of tops she had on tonight and jumps around

10-09-2007, 02:37 AM	#3 (permalink)
rlm Member of Sylar's Army Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: tx Posts: 1,992 My Profile	no the save us ads are still going to be popping up. vince was against bringing in jericho at no mercy cuz he felt it was too early. so those promos will probably keep showing up until cyber sunday where jericho is scheduled to make his return. also they're expecting edge to return sometime around late december or january. john morrison is set come back tonight on ecw though.

10-09-2007, 10:11 AM	#4 (permalink)
Mo LH/FH.Com 0ld Skool Join Date: May 2000 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,307 My Profile	having HBK back & hopefully Y2J will help Raw no doubt not to mention WWE. Edge back on SD helps also...

10-10-2007, 04:18 AM	#5 (permalink)
Gumby Ya Rly! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 943 My Profile	Beth Phoenix, Jillian Hall, & Melina vs. Candice Michelle, Mickie James, & Maria Pretty good match, actually. Beth's music sucks, and I don't like Candice's remix, either. She shouldn't be skipping out to the ring and being all perky and chipper. That's Mickie's thing. She should stick to being the sultry hottie. Snitsky vs. Val Venis Snitsky is officially the ugliest human being on the planet. Seriously, gross. Oh, and his music sucks, too. But so does he, so it fits. Val deserves better. Santino is the funniest heel to come along in a long time, though. Lilian Sings I love Lilian, so I can't complain too much. I know they have to promote her CD, but it does take away from the show. I liked Santino's song about The Condemned. Just bring out Stone Cold and have him stun Santino already. We know it's gonna happen. Randy Orton & Umaga vs. Triple H Triple H is making up for lost time in the politics department. Not only did he make himself the center of No Mercy, but now he's so powerful that not even the combined might of the monster Umaga and Randy Orton can beat him. Randy has been on fire as of late. His in-ring style, combined with his cold-blooded psychopath character suits him, and Randy does it all perfectly. He's really stepped it up since being called Blandy Boreton. He still needs a little mic work, but keeping his promos short and sweet should help, especially since, as champion, he'll have to cut more promos. Paul London & Brian Kendrick vs. The Highlanders Too short, and the Heelanders aren't really that good. Cade & Murdock are much better. I just wish The Pitbulls and MNM were still around Those matches were godly. Jeff Hardy vs. Mr. Kennedy Good match, but I've come to expect nothing less from Jeff Hardy. The Return of Shawn Michaels Didn't care. Michaels is boring unless he's a heel. Save Us Promo "2nd Coming." It's definitely Jericho, but they need to run those during the shows and have people talking about them. Let them interrupt promos or matches (preferably Snitsky's) and let the anticipation build, since most people have figured that it's Jericho, until people are so chanting Y2J all of RAW, then bring him back and watch the building explode.

10-10-2007, 09:55 AM	#6 (permalink)
rlm Member of Sylar's Army Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: tx Posts: 1,992 My Profile	they should have jericho show up on a tv event. raw obviously. if the wwe wants ratings, which they are lacking in as of late, this would get their attention. but they're going to have him show up at cyber sunday. i hate that. it's more exciting on regular tv. michaels showing up was a surprise to many. he was expected to show up somewhere down the line. but it seems that with cena's absence, triple h convinced shawn to come back early to help fill up the gap.

10-10-2007, 10:26 AM	#7 (permalink)
Mo LH/FH.Com 0ld Skool Join Date: May 2000 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,307 My Profile	It's weird that they will have Y2J show up @ a weak ppv like Cyber sunday.

10-11-2007, 11:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
SMG Rules The Wicked One Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA Posts: 764 My Profile	Maybe they are going to try a make cyber sunday important by holding off Y2J until then?

10-12-2007, 12:10 AM	#9 (permalink)
Mat Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 1,030 My Profile	Thats what ive read

10-12-2007, 04:45 PM	#11 (permalink)
Mat Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 1,030 My Profile	Im looking forward to the Lilian storyline. I am gonna be meeting her Oct 17th for a cd signing. I cant wait :D As for teddy hard, not surprised. Im upset about Krissy leaving.

10-13-2007, 03:23 AM	#13 (permalink)
rlm Member of Sylar's Army Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: tx Posts: 1,992 My Profile	them canadians. when they hold a grudge, they hold a grudge.

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10-13-2007, 09:17 PM	#15 (permalink)
Gumby Ya Rly! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 943 My Profile	Damn, I wish Krissy hadn't have left. She could have had a nice feud with Torrie. I bet Torrie's pissed, since she took a beating by some chick who will never be seen again. I've heard that the new Hart Foundation idea has been scrapped due to Teddy Hart's release. I'm surprised they hired the guy in the first place. The man is insane.

10-13-2007, 09:31 PM	#16 (permalink)
Mat Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 1,030 My Profile	Ive only seen pics of Teddy, about it. Never even seen a match.

10-14-2007, 01:42 AM	#17 (permalink)
rlm Member of Sylar's Army Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: tx Posts: 1,992 My Profile	i'm taking you never heard of the teddy hart incident? here's a link to the vid. there's a reason why he's not liked at all. he's a showboat and thinks it's all about him. in the vid one of the other wrestlers gets angry at him and tries to stop him by beating him with a belt. but he keeps show boating until he pukes on himself. just watch this vid. also you can check out the other vids on this site its on. its a cool site. http://www.wrestlinggonewrong.com/vi..._incident.html

10-14-2007, 01:49 AM	#18 (permalink)
Gumby Ya Rly! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 943 My Profile	Teleprompter?

10-14-2007, 09:49 PM	#19 (permalink)
SMG Rules The Wicked One Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA Posts: 764 My Profile	Thats one of the worst promos I've ever seen LOL I could do alot better than that.