Second name and marriage

[Moshe..]

My mum kept her surname, I think just because she felt a connection to her parents, and her eccentric family. I don't see how her doing that has any impact on anything! Like we don't have the same name on our passports to her, that's all. My parents have been married for almost thirty years.

[Captain Beefheart]

Stop just blaming the Americans for stupid marriage traditions. please they are everywhere.

Puritan americans left Europe because they were too extreme... even for northern protestants. Firstthey left England and France, fled to the lowlands, Germany etc. cause they weren't wanted by the catholics. and then left the lowlands cause we didn't live by faith strict enough for them. HAHAH!

But on the real I think a lot of it has to do with America being isolationist for most of it's history.Europe always had interaction with other cultures. America on the other hand has been relatively self reliant. it makes it easier to cement "old ideas".

Oh C'mon, Harry Potter is evil, so is Barak Obama I know because I got very informative emails from people telling me why

I was referencing Jocasta's surname.



Now if you excuse I'll return to worshippping cardboard cutouts of Winston Churchill.

[Moshe..]

HArry potter isn't english, he's so embarrassing for england. I think he's way more american than english. It's about selling some kind of dorky fantasy of the english boarding school to american geek children. I don't understand how any kids can like him! They must be such freaks, like when I was that age I was much more normal and just into julius caeser and bruce willis, and maths obviously (maths is stylish). He's very unfashionable and effete with the glasses and the haircut, it's probably going to set fashion back decades.

[Jocasta]

Even though I enjoyed all of the books (some much more than others) I never really cared about Harry, there's plenty of far more interesting characters to love instead.

[Captain Beefheart]

My guess is for the last installment Harry will fall into a downward spiral of heavy drug use, one night stands, and general self destruction in a desperate attempt to find himself. He will examine his mitochondrial DNA and find out he's not that far related from Sam from LOTR. Then Tolkien's family will keep racking money up from sum "Harry Potter vs. Lord of the Rings" saga, until someone finds out he actually prophesed a third world war in "The Hobbit" which in reality amounted to zero evidence for anything at all, apart from human gullibility.

[Moshe..]

Yeah, exactly. I don't know anything about the book, but he looks so so boring and you know he's no fun just from the haircut. Maybe I'd read if he joined the SAS/ took part in the final fatal heroin binge with heath ledger/ snorted coke off kate moss's buttocks ect ect and then went on some kind of gay rampage involving michael portillo and christiano ronaldo.

[Captain Beefheart]

J.K Rowlkings is a satanist commisioned by Satan himself to feed fertile soil in our childrens heads!

I don't know anything about the book, but he looks so so boring and you know he's no fun just from the haircut

Perhaps you didn't hear about Harry rocking out to the Kinks with his long, greasy, butt rocker hair and a molestache, three hours in his little plastic guitar while all the girls spunned in circles and waved their fingers around like they were trying to get the last bit of nutella out of the jar.

[Moshe..]

Rowling’s clever how she created such an awful main character, it's machiavellian genius. To max out your commercial success you need to exclude as few children as possible. So she makes him so unbelievably geeky that nobody feels intimidated and therefore excluded. It’s like even the least attractive girls don’t feel intimated, and therefore he always seems attainable. When you’re a kid you’re like that, it’s weird! Your fantasy has to be somewhat attainable. I watched all their movies but never got a fixation on like isabelle adjani or claudia cardinale, they were way too glamorous, sophisticated, and hence intimidating. Instead you have embarrassing obsessions with ridiculously boring, unglamorous and unsophisticated celebs like rachel stevens or jasmine from aladdin or... pinocchio. On the other hand at least rachel and pinnocchio are well-endowed and never had glasses or sinister bowl-cut hair or a substitutionally-phallic broom-stick devotion. Harry potter takes it to whole new level of psychosexual freakiness and all round evil.

[Captain Beefheart]

You really have a thing for Potter mate. Might as well jab his **** with a sting ray barb wire while watching him bleed as nourishment for the mayan gods.

All in all this was a good day considering you haven't managed to post any Rach YET. Now let's drink away the pain of existence and fall into a deep inebriated slumber where we dream of Harrison Ford's corpse, mongeese, and a loving future of internets beamed to the toilet bowl where we all hold hands and sing.


For years I tried to perfect the whipping of a branch and swinging across a "pit of poisoned dirt and leaves" but could never really get it done without poisoning my shoes a little. Now I'm curious as to how Harrison unhooks the whip after he's able to cross whatever gap he's crossin. And what's up with people who think Ride of the Valkyries is the Indiana Jones theme? HA!

[Dark Dude]

Im just whacky.

bah. do I have to get serious here?

look let me go out and defend myself that I was taken out of context by Professor Moshe. he read something I said and thought I was serious and for some reason he decided to bore us with a post about love. weve all felt love, moshe. Im not a retard. It doesnt take a smart man to know or say what love is. because really there is no right or wrong answer. you love who or what you want to love.

I dint say Id do the ring thing because its traditional, notice that tradition was in quotation marks, the reason I put it in quotation marks is the exact same reason that you stated . you give people things because you care about them. not because its traditional. and you work and make money so you can take care of the ones you love. you think I buts my ass at work and make a little money so I can take my girlfriend out to eat and the movie and road trips because its traditional? you got me all wrong there. I do those things because I love her and I like seeing her have fun and I like having fun with her. I just said it that way to prove a point. Some women think men want to do these things because its in their gender role. This is far from the truth. Im just defending my honor with a little sarcasm. Im a man damn it. So if some girls cant see what men go through for them, well then thats fine. I dont do these thing to feel like a man or to "ascert my authority". I do these things out of the goodness of my own heart. Im also not saying that women should take this into consideration and just accept it, theyre free to do what they want. sometimes people put aside compassion or understanding for dumb and misguided personal ideologies. I could careless if whoever I marry wants to take my name or not. Im just saying that maybe the girl that was being discussed is maybe being a little selfish, and shes not taking the guys feelings into consideration, and this guy should talk it out with her, maybe shes doing this to help her ego or maybe shes doing it for other reasons. You just never know.(of course she can argue, if you really love me, you wouldnt care if i take your name or not) In his case, its way more than just that. or maybe its just insecurity, maybe hes "traditional", I dont know. Theres obviously a lack of communication there. should this marriage even happen?

talking about it will help and hopefully both parties can come to some sort of agreement.

You get my drift?

about hanging people from trees:
Im not an american, I just live here. but..
about hanging people from trees and burning them didnt just happen in america. Im sure you know, it wasnt something that happened to black people exclusively.
it happens or has happened all over the world. (of course, the dude, does not approve of such actions)
Its not an "american" tradition it was always a...hanus act performed by humans all over the world. not just by americans. theres no need to go blaming everything on americans, its simply ignorant. You said it yourself about the "witch" burnings, these things were happening way before america even existed and sadly it was handed down. I dont approve of more than half of everything this government does, nor do I approve of all american traditions. but I dont go blaming americans for everything. I just wanna make that clear. ok.

its horrible and it should never happen to anyone, and it shouldnt happen anywhere, under any circumstances. Im against any type of corporal/physical punishment.


go outside.

[Jocasta]

I watched all their movies

The movies are slighty above average kiddy fare, nothing more, whereas the books are so much better (when was that ever in doubt?). I agree, Harry is such a bland, tediously hard done to character, I don't feel anything for him, it's the fabulous anti hero of Snape that got me hooked. And it's been hilarious to watch JK Rowling squirm and try to throw those few people off the scent when they guessed the way that character was going. She was pissed about that but she fooled most people so well done to her.
In this films, despite Rickman's efforts Snape just never reaches his literary heights. And despite the casting of a delightfully emo boy to play the teenage Professor.

[Scotty]

Originally Posted by Moshe..

We used have a half-decent politics board where people at least made an attempt to construct intelligent arguments (although they rarely succeeded), and express themselves in well-formed sentences. If you can give me a decent argument for why somebody else has to take your name, and why it couldn’t just as well be the other way, then maybe I’ll listen to your opinion, but otherwise - what is the point.

This isn't the politics forum.

[Jocasta]

Originally Posted by Scotty

This isn't the politics forum.

Very true, how silly to expect "intelligent arguments" and people who can "express themselves in well-formed sentences" in the Mens Forum.

[Moshe..]

Dark dude that was a really nice comment! Even in some parallel dimension in which harry potter is the greatest literature of our time, I can’t understand how children enjoy it. It makes no sense compared to the heroes we were into growing up, schwarzenegger or like scar from the lion king! I think they must be putting so much oestrogen in the drinking water nowadays. You know scar was played by jeremy irons! I have to learn russian one of these days.

[Jocasta]

Moshe, if you haven't read the books then you're not in a position to comment on hoe children could enjoy them or not... agreed? Besides, you're probably too much of an intellectual to enjoy them, which is cool.

[Moshe..]

Look don’t you find it weird, in the 90s kids used to be into action heroes. And then suddenly out of nowhere potter arrives on his broom. You don't have to read the books to see that there is no connection between the thoroughly unwholesome influence of potter, and the more traditionally admirable and healthy role-models we grew up with like captain hook and bill clinton. It's important because the appeal of these sinister potter texts will doubtless both predict and, to a lesser but nonetheless deleterious extent, shape the tastes and outlook of the next generation. I’m not looking forward to seeing these freaks grow up. Still I'm curious to know what they see in it, apart from the oh too phallic broomstick fixation. Ok even the best of us have a broom-stick devotion! On the other hand, at least children still have some good role-models around like kate moss and tracey emin. Oh and by the way I was very impressed how pirates can be so good at piano. I suppose he must have a lot of time to practice on board the ship. Lessons in how to be like kate moss should be on the national curriculum.

[Captain Beefheart]

While i'm sure Jocasta's expectations of a synthesis of Harry Potter's adolescent angst portrayed through orgy scenes with his two little pals and outwitting their sexual prowess with super sex spells with the incorporation of mind control, the end of the mayan calendar and the celestine prophecy (what she imagines the 4th density to be like) directed by David Lynch will never bear frutition, she's wrong about the movies being kiddy fare and Rickman's portrait of Snape.

[darko.]

[Jocasta]

How am I wrong when it's just my interpretation that compared to the dark and layered books, the films are lighter and simplistic? And Rickman plays Snape better than anyone else could, he just doesn't have the material to work with, considering the complexity of the literary character.
Beefy didn't read the series either so like Moshe, his opinion is limited.

[Frasier]

This isn't the politics forum.

Exactly! I wanted to post a funny answer in here... but now I'm too scared