Guns

07-22-2007, 01:08 PM

Thanks to Ophelia for the push to get something started.

The family bloodline I was assigned to comes from a military and law enforcement, mainly the male side of the family. My father was in the military, so was his; my mum's father was in law enforcement, so guns were the norm.

I was to enlist in the Marines March 1st of 2006 but my reservations on this Administration made me think twice. But guns have always fascinated me. I like war movies, doesn't matter how old the movie is. I've seen Black Hawk Down many-a-times [I'm sure some girls have also... talking about The Bunnies, of course], I even watch M*A*S*H when it airs at 1am. And I play war-based computer games like Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Battlefield [1942/DesertCombat/Vietnam/2042]. WWII was bittersweet. Dancing the night away with that girl you knew may be the last night you'll ever see here again; the final night before shipping off to Guadalcanal.

I believe there's a gun range in San Diego, or somewhere in the deserts of California where you can fire .50 cal machine guns like these:

So, any opinion on guns is open for discussion. Do you own any? Never fired a gun? Do you want to?

The lines are open.

**Ophelia** · 07-22-2007, 01:39 PM

I LOVE MASH! I've seen every single episode 50 times.

Even though I am not a dude, I will contribute. I have never owned a gun, and don't want to. However, I would love to learn how to shoot, go to a firing range and blast away. Seems theraputic. Then again, I could just try Yoga.

**Plastic Flute** · 07-22-2007, 04:42 PM

I shot a shotgun. It hurt. But i would really love to get into Archery.

**Ophelia** · 07-22-2007, 04:43 PM

Here in the South a shotgun don't count as a gun, it's just a mandatory accessory or part of the decor.

Scotty · 07-22-2007, 04:53 PM

In the UK they banned automatic weapons after one guy went nuts (can't remember his name) and killed a number of people then we had Dunblane and they got rid of all hand guns and pretty much any private gun ownership up to .22 calibre due to major pressure from the tabloids and IMO Britain being such a nanny state.

I had to join the Army cadets to fire a weapon. Some crappy old WW2 bolt action rifle coverted to .22 and the current Assault rifle the British military use when I went on a camping trip.

Great fun.

I just wish the laws weren't as strict in the UK as they are. Guns R fun.

**Plastic Flute** · 07-22-2007, 05:04 PM

^ well maybe now that the Muslims are invading the UK . the laws may change.

Scotty · 07-22-2007, 05:44 PM

The laws will not be relaxed. The fact that so far the terrorists have had no guns on them is evidence enough that the gun laws are working to many people.

Samson The Cat · 07-22-2007, 06:25 PM

I personally could never see myself owning a firearm.

Blackmask · 07-23-2007, 02:27 AM

As far as fascination value I prefer blades, swords and knives are very cool. I haven't had much to do with guns. Only ones I've ever fired have been prop guns or modified real guns for theatre use.

We have very tight gun laws here's so they aren't something that people really encounter which I'm more than happy with. I don't think most people have a real need to own a gun.

07-23-2007, 05:02 AM

Back in the late 80's to early 90's, crime was normal around here. The neighbours have kept guns for a long time, and pretty much everyone has taken part when it came to defending our homes and cars. So far, no one's been a victim of theft, etc. cause they fought back. Only a handful of thugs have been shot, nothing life-threatening, but they learned. Neighbours sent a clear message that whoever comes looking for trouble round here, will end up beaten or shot.

Its been peaceful here since 1996.

Blackmask · 07-23-2007, 05:57 AM

We manage to get that without the threat of shooting. The homicide rates and crime rates in general, prison population levels, in the UK and Australia, which are both relatively gun free, are significantly lower % wise than in the US.

Psychologically guns might be making people feel safer but the actual figures suggest it's not worse where guns aren't a way of life.

**Bill5461** · 07-23-2007, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scotty

The fact that so far the terrorists have had no guns on them is evidence enough that the gun laws are working to many people.

Maybe they should ban car bombs then

Scotty · 07-23-2007, 08:54 AM

Great thinking.

07-23-2007, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackmask

Psychologically guns might be making people feel safer but the actual figures suggest it's not worse where guns aren't a way of life.

... Switzerland.

**Plastic Flute** · 07-23-2007, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill5461

Maybe they should ban car bombs then

Sling shots work well on approaching cars with arab bombers in them .

**MSFixR** · 07-23-2007, 03:48 PM

I was on the rifle team in high school and I qualified (at expert) with several types of firearms while in the army. I do not nor will I ever own a firearm.

**Bill5461** · 07-23-2007, 04:52 PM

My wife wants to get one, but she's such a weird sleeper I'd end up shot some night....so NO

**Jocasta** · 07-23-2007, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ://.Phoenix.

... Switzerland.

A high level of gun ownership is not the same as "guns being a way of life". I don't see the latter as being Switzerland, even if it is the former.

Blackmask · 07-23-2007, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ://.Phoenix.

... Switzerland.

Switzerland actually has some very tight gun controls. The high gun ownership in Switzerland is part of their defence structure. The guns are issued by the army to military trained personnel for defence purposes. That's very different thinking from a way of life or a "right".

Keri · 07-24-2007, 12:26 PM

I had a go on the firing range at the police HQ I used to work at. Fired a Glock and semi automatic of some description with a laser sight. I have to say I was scared shitless as I picked them up but as soon as I pulled that trigger it was the biggest rush of adrenaline I have ever experienced :/

07-22-2007, 01:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
Avis Phlox Posts: n/a	Guns Thanks to Ophelia for the push to get something started. The family bloodline I was assigned to comes from a military and law enforcement, mainly the male side of the family. My father was in the military, so was his; my mum's father was in law enforcement, so guns were the norm. I was to enlist in the Marines March 1st of 2006 but my reservations on this Administration made me think twice. But guns have always fascinated me. I like war movies, doesn't matter how old the movie is. I've seen Black Hawk Down many-a-times [I'm sure some girls have also... talking about The Bunnies, of course], I even watch MASH when it airs at 1am. And I play war-based computer games like Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Battlefield [1942/DesertCombat/Vietnam/2042]. WWII was bittersweet. Dancing the night away with that girl you knew may be the last night you'll ever see here again; the final night before shipping off to Guadalcanal. I believe there's a gun range in San Diego, or somewhere in the deserts of California where you can fire .50 cal machine guns like these: So, any opinion on guns is open for discussion. Do you own any? Never fired a gun? Do you want to? The lines are open. Last edited by Avis Phlox : 07-22-2007 at 01:08 PM.*

07-22-2007, 04:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
Ophelia JOHO Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Joshtopia Posts: 7,018 My Profile	Here in the South a shotgun don't count as a gun, it's just a mandatory accessory or part of the decor. Last edited by Ophelia : 07-22-2007 at 04:44 PM.

07-23-2007, 05:02 AM	#10 (permalink)
Avis Phlox Posts: n/a	Back in the late 80's to early 90's, crime was normal around here. The neighbours have kept guns for a long time, and pretty much everyone has taken part when it came to defending our homes and cars. So far, no one's been a victim of theft, etc. cause they fought back. Only a handful of thugs have been shot, nothing life-threatening, but they learned. Neighbours sent a clear message that whoever comes looking for trouble round here, will end up beaten or shot. Its been peaceful here since 1996. Last edited by Avis Phlox : 07-23-2007 at 05:03 AM.

07-23-2007, 08:54 AM	#13 (permalink)
Scotty Banned by Stuper Mods Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: N Korea Posts: 810 My Profile	Great thinking. Last edited by Scotty : 07-23-2007 at 09:04 AM.

07-24-2007, 12:26 PM	#20 (permalink)
Keri Kiss My Pom Poms Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: UK Posts: 4,018 My Profile	I had a go on the firing range at the police HQ I used to work at. Fired a Glock and semi automatic of some description with a laser sight. I have to say I was scared shitless as I picked them up but as soon as I pulled that trigger it was the biggest rush of adrenaline I have ever experienced :/ Last edited by Keri : 07-24-2007 at 12:26 PM.

07-22-2007, 01:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ophelia JOHO Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Joshtopia Posts: 7,018 My Profile	I LOVE MASH! I've seen every single episode 50 times. Even though I am not a dude, I will contribute. I have never owned a gun, and don't want to. However, I would love to learn how to shoot, go to a firing range and blast away. Seems theraputic. Then again, I could just try Yoga.

07-22-2007, 04:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
Plastic Flute ICHiBAN HoOT Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 12,860 My Profile	I shot a shotgun. It hurt. But i would really love to get into Archery.

07-22-2007, 04:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
Scotty Banned by Stuper Mods Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: N Korea Posts: 810 My Profile	In the UK they banned automatic weapons after one guy went nuts (can't remember his name) and killed a number of people then we had Dunblane and they got rid of all hand guns and pretty much any private gun ownership up to .22 calibre due to major pressure from the tabloids and IMO Britain being such a nanny state. I had to join the Army cadets to fire a weapon. Some crappy old WW2 bolt action rifle coverted to .22 and the current Assault rifle the British military use when I went on a camping trip. Great fun. I just wish the laws weren't as strict in the UK as they are. Guns R fun.

07-22-2007, 05:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
Plastic Flute ICHiBAN HoOT Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 12,860 My Profile	^ well maybe now that the Muslims are invading the UK . the laws may change.

07-22-2007, 05:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
Scotty Banned by Stuper Mods Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: N Korea Posts: 810 My Profile	The laws will not be relaxed. The fact that so far the terrorists have had no guns on them is evidence enough that the gun laws are working to many people.

07-22-2007, 06:25 PM	#8 (permalink)
Samson The Cat Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Thuringia Posts: 2,210 My Profile	I personally could never see myself owning a firearm.

07-23-2007, 02:27 AM	#9 (permalink)
Blackmask Protector of Inanity Join Date: May 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 6,158 My Profile	As far as fascination value I prefer blades, swords and knives are very cool. I haven't had much to do with guns. Only ones I've ever fired have been prop guns or modified real guns for theatre use. We have very tight gun laws here's so they aren't something that people really encounter which I'm more than happy with. I don't think most people have a real need to own a gun.

07-23-2007, 05:57 AM	#11 (permalink)
Blackmask Protector of Inanity Join Date: May 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 6,158 My Profile	We manage to get that without the threat of shooting. The homicide rates and crime rates in general, prison population levels, in the UK and Australia, which are both relatively gun free, are significantly lower % wise than in the US. Psychologically guns might be making people feel safer but the actual figures suggest it's not worse where guns aren't a way of life.

07-23-2007, 03:48 PM	#16 (permalink)
MSFixR Science Boy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dante's Inferno, Circle 4 Posts: 8,501 My Profile	I was on the rifle team in high school and I qualified (at expert) with several types of firearms while in the army. I do not nor will I ever own a firearm.

07-23-2007, 04:52 PM	#17 (permalink)
Bill5461 Scarlett Mod Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 11,785 My Profile	My wife wants to get one, but she's such a weird sleeper I'd end up shot some night....so NO

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