Paedophiles

[Scotty]

Question is, why is it there seems (is) to be double standards between men and women?

Woman in the US gets out after a few months for sex with a 14 year old.

Guy goes to jail for life for the same crime.

The imprisonment and general feelings tend to get a bit slanted in the womens favour.

It's because of the numbers for every woman pedophile there are hundreds and hudreds of male ones. Remember that most of the women pedophiles usually mess with boys who are at least 10-15 years old. While a lot of men pick on girls from just been born to like 12 years old.

And to be perfectly honest most of the boys dig mess with an older woman. I mean they get they sexual gratification. Plus the me who are pedophiles are slimey perverts that should be hung! The double standard is good.

I think it better that the woman get an easier ride. Hell woman hardly get anything else easy.

[open32]

^I kinda agree on a lot of those points.

Another thing is every time you hear of a woman raping a boy, the boy is never physically forced, although it is statutory rape, I have never heard a case where the boy wasnt willing. This doesnt take the fault of the woman but it does mitigate things in the eyes of a jury.

In the case of male Pedophiles, most of them use force, beat, tie down and badly hurt the girl creating a life long traumatic experience.

And then you have culture, in the eyes of boys, especially school grade 13-15, sleeping with the teacher or an older woman is something considered cool. A lot would be perfectly willing, no force required. Its not so much the same with young girls.

[SilverSpoon]

So little boys are like sluts who just need a little motivation.

[Jocasta]

Originally Posted by Scotty

Question is, why is it there seems (is) to be double standards between men and women?

Woman in the US gets out after a few months for sex with a 14 year old.

Guy goes to jail for life for the same crime.

The imprisonment and general feelings tend to get a bit slanted in the womens favour.

Your next 2 posts answered that and since when do male paedophiles always get life?

[Gumby]

Originally Posted by PJYfan

It's because of the numbers for every woman pedophile there are hundreds and hudreds of male ones. Remember that most of the women pedophiles usually mess with boys who are at least 10-15 years old. While a lot of men pick on girls from just been born to like 12 years old.

So, if a male and a female each molest a 10 year-old, why does the woman get the lighter sentence?

And to be perfectly honest most of the boys dig mess with an older woman. I mean they get they sexual gratification. Plus the me who are pedophiles are slimey perverts that should be hung! The double standard is good.

Only to people with the reasoning ability of a retarded donkey. Being molested, or having sex at such a young age can and will leave psychological scars, as well as twisting the idea of what love and sex are all about.

I think it better that the woman get an easier ride. Hell woman hardly get anything else easy.

Yeah, women have it bad...so let's give them lighter jail time for molesting kids. WTF? They don't even have it [i]that/I] bad.

Wow...this thread is really too stupid for words.

Yeah but when do you hear of a woman slitting a boy's penis to make it fit into her. Males have done this. When have you heard of a group of women sodimizing and screwing an 11 year old boy? The cases of female pedophiles is a lot less extreme then those of men.

Men tend to kill and harm the little girls in more horrific ways, like biting and repeating it over and over again. Also males tend to have sex with both the sexes.

I think we are way too light on pedophiles, why can someone molest a child and only serve two years?

I think the way men hurt children is a lot more viscious then the way women do.

[Jocasta]

Wow...this thread is really too stupid for words.

And yet you wasted your own on it.

[edawg99]

You all have good points but if my attractive teacher wanted to bang me when I was 14 I would like it so much. They treat these boys as victims but what high school boy wouldn't want sex.

Good point edawg, and the things with women pedophiles they are a lot less gruesome and scumy then their maile counter parts.

[BlackWolf]

I agree that often the males commit much worse crimes, but that's not a fair argument. You can't compare a violent forced rape, with a non-violent seduction type. I would imagine(and hope) that the sentancing has more to do with the actual crime commited than the sex of the offender.

That's usually correct Blackwolf, but as you all know males tend to commit some of the most horrific crimes out there.

[edawg99]

Originally Posted by PJYfan

Good point edawg, and the things with women pedophiles they are a lot less gruesome and scumy then their maile counter parts.

With the women it's more like love making then sex. It doesn't seem to be so dirty.

Exactly edawg!

[Samson The Cat]

Oh dear. You had it coming, I'm actually replying to this.

Another thing is every time you hear of a woman raping a boy, the boy is never physically forced, although it is statutory rape, I have never heard a case where the boy wasnt willing. This doesnt take the fault of the woman but it does mitigate things in the eyes of a jury.

And if a child, girl or boy, is forced, than of course the offender must face a severe penalty.

In the case of male Pedophiles, most of them use force, beat, tie down and badly hurt the girl creating a life long traumatic experience.

No. What you described sounds more like the type of person who wants to live out power over someone weaker - not someone who loves children a little too much and has a sexual desire towards them (that is what pedophiles are).

Plus the me who are pedophiles are slimey perverts that should be hung!

Not at all.
PJYfan: A pedophile is someone, who is attracted to (preadolescent) children. This includes sexual attraction, but this doesn't have to be a primary desire. Not more and not less. The word doesn't even imply that the person acts on that desire.

The group of people who rape children (use threats or even force, create a feeling of helplessness in the victim) and the group of the pedophiles are not identical. I know some pedophiles cannot control their sexual desire, respectively think they don't harm children, if they persuade them to sexual acts. Sadly, this can be deceptive - but it's not in all cases.

I really don't condone sex with children, but to me it's different, if someone rapes* a child, if someone persuades one to sexual acts or if someone if merely attracted to them. The first person should be punished hard. The second person should also face penalties, but not as high as the first person. The third person must not be persecuted at all. I don't see why so few people agree on that.
But back to case number two: the adult who seduces a child. It's very difficult, to find the right sentence for that. This behavior can massively damage the victims psyche. The child can feel abused, can feel dirty, ... This all can happen, but it doesn't have to. Of course the offender can not exclude that there will be damage, so he (or she - although that's more seldom) should not have committed the deed beforehand. But what if it already happened and the child happened to be lucky to not suffer from psychological problems because of it. If the guy gets caught does really everything have to be done to convince the child, that he or she is a victim, that it's bad what have happened. The child probably felt like the relationship to the adult was a friendship and probably vice versa. Do psychologists have to create a feeling of guilt in the child? Even, if there's no direct accusation towards the child, the child feels that questions are repeated until he or she gives the right answers, although he or she knows something bad will happen to his or her adult friend because of it.

The main problem isn't the pedophile, but the way the victim is treated during that - until it really feels like a victim.

Maybe the offender shouldn't be punished as hard in the cases, where the victim doesn't feel so bad about it. After all drunk drivers who don't kill people while drunk driving don't get punished the same, as the ones that do so. And even more so - in the cases where no one is killed, the persecution doesn't create a victim by killing someone, only that the drunk driver could be punished harder. "If you hadn't driven under the influence of alcohol, we wouldn't have needed to kill a person to make you see the consequences, so it's your fault, now go to jail for it" - sounds illogical, but "we did our best to make the child feel bad and create that feeling of guilt and being abused, so that we can put you in jail for it" is common practice when it comes to pedophiles who sought sexual contact to children. Again, they shouldn't have done so in first place, but if it already happened, I don't see why it has to be made even worse for the victim, if the child was one of the lucky cases, who didn't suffer from psychological wounds from the act alone.

Yeah but when do you hear of a woman slitting a boy's penis to make it fit into her

I've read about the cruelties you're referring to and totally understand your hatred against the people who committed them. Please just don't mix up the people who do things like the one's you meant with the people who just are too much attracted to children.

[Gumby]

You can't punish someone for one crime based on the severity of someone else's actions.

Statistically, women are more likely to physically abuse a child. Does that mean a mother who abused her child should get a heavier sentence than a man who did the same? Abuse is abuse.

The only time I can see someone going light on something like statutory rape is when the "victim" and the "offender" are very close in age, like a 16 year-old boy having sex with his 15 year-old girlfriend, or vice-versa. Not that I think children that age should be having sex at all, but it happens regardless.

And Samson is right. A pedophile is defined as:

1. Someone who has experienced strong sexual desire and/or activity for a prepubescent child (usually 13 and younger) for at least 6 months time.

2. The person has acted on these desires, or finds the desires causes distress or social difficulty (troubled by their own thoughts).

3. The person is at least 16 years old and at least 5 years older than the person they have these urges for.

Pedophiles can control their actions, and many do, and many never actually engage in any sort of sexual activity with a child. It's the ones who do that cross the line, and they should all be punished to the fullest extent of the law, regardless of their gender or physical attractiveness.

What is the point of defing what a pedophile is? I mean doesn;t that mean their sick? I still don;t understand why a man would be attracted to an 8 year old. I think it is sickness and nothing else.

[Wolf]

The main problem isn't the pedophile, but the way the victim is treated during that - until it really feels like a victim.

The main problem is the pedophile. There have been many cases when children who are raped by some grown man or women and don’t go through any psychiatric help still feels dirty and helpless at the time of his or her rape. Even if a child forgets about it, he or she still could still be going through the feelings that a person who was rape would be feeling because of their sub consciousness and the fact that they want to forget what happen because it's to horrible, but understanding what happened to you and moving on will most likely help you instead of sitting there going through the emotions with no help.

The second person should also face penalties, but not as high as the first person.

I think the second one should also face the same penalties as the first. You see, children are innocent and can be persuaded to do just about anything. It's just like you said above "they will only start believing it if someone keeps telling them" and the same goes for a pedophile; the child will start giving in because that pedophile keeps telling him or her it is okay. But, I think a lighter sentence should be available to those who commit the act with a 14 or above (who was willingly committing the act). But, they still should serve jail time and people should know who that person is and what they did.

It's because of the numbers for every woman pedophile there are hundreds and hudreds of male ones.

Just because not many women do it doesn't mean they should have a lighter sentence then men. If a women rapes or persuades a child to have sex with her she should be thrown in jail just like the male is. Also, mans actions doesn't dictate a women’s actions against a child. She thinks rationally (I suppose), can follow through with a rape, or leave it alone and seek help.

I think it is wrong for a woman to recieve the same sentence as a male pedophiles. Most of the female pedophiles are women who seduce boys from like 12 and onward.

You never hear of a woman beating a boy to death, screwing a little child to death. You never hear of a woman raping a little boy or girl then using the objecs on the child, then murdering the child.

You never hear of women stocking playgrounds and children's parties.

I think that male pedophiles commit the most heinous crimes. And pleas don't give me none of that equality spiel, when it comes to pedophilia males are by far the worst, when it comes to this crime.

Their should be no defense for this.

[darko.]

we should be allowed to murder suicidal people as well. logical as well as lawful.

idiots..