The "Man that is a girl now"

Wolf · 08-06-2006, 02:39 PM

How do you men of FH feel about men that change their whole entire gender to the womens? Would you still go out with a person who were to under go that change? Would it still make a man gay if he were to know about the gender change and still date the man/women?

Your thoughts?

darko. · 08-06-2006, 03:40 PM

nothing productive can come from dating a person who "changes sex"...of course they really dont change their sex. they mutilate their genitals and take hormones. really theyre just freaks.

i would have nothing to do with a transgengderd whatever they want to be called

it would make the man stupid and pathetic. he wouldnt be having sex with a vagina. he'd be having sex with the insides of a man. its gross just imagining it.

**open32** · 08-06-2006, 03:48 PM

I have to agreee with darko on this. Its a bit wierd. I dont think it should be done, I would never go out with a person that did that, whats worse is when someone does it and then doesnt tell there partner.

Other then the fact that you may not know who is or who isnt. If two people tell eachother and are ok with it, I could care less about what they do. The problem comes when they dont tell.

darko. · 08-06-2006, 03:58 PM

you can always tell. some can pass most of the time but they still have at least 1 quality that makes you wonder, however fleeting the thought may be.

Krypton · 08-06-2006, 06:44 PM

I think its realy nasty... Why cant they just be happy about their body wich they have bin born with, why change... If they feel they are in the wrong sex's body, they can change their sex to the sex they are closest to.
I respect that.
But if some one do it cuz they want to, I think the person is nothing more than a big idiot and I woud never respect that person.

JenniferNoble · 08-07-2006, 09:56 AM

exactly, some people are just born in the wrong body. that must suck

still i dont think id go out with a guy that was a chick in his early years

solo1 · 08-07-2006, 04:24 PM

I don't know. It's never happened to me. I imagine that sort of thing would make itself known before I got so close to someone that it would become an issue.

edawg99 · 08-07-2006, 06:04 PM

That is the most disgusting thing I ever heard. Why ? Those people just need mental help.

08-07-2006, 07:53 PM

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some people are just born in the wrong body.

Ive never really understood that- how can you feel like the opposite gender, when you've blatantly got no experience to say that what that feels like? It'd be like if I said I felt like a Mayan peasant trapped in an English guys body- a bit daft, really. It seems to be a suggestion that theres more to how someone "feels" than genetics, brain chemistry and collected experience, which I dont think there is.

darko. · 08-07-2006, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JenniferNoble

exactly, some people are just born in the wrong body.

no they aren't.

Blackmask · 08-07-2006, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JenniferNoble

exactly, some people are just born in the wrong body.

How can someone be born in the wrong body? That the body they have, it's part of them. Maybe there's a component of social influence that makes them feel uncomfortable being who they are in their physical form, but that's not the "wrong body" that social expectations.

Is someone who's disabled, blind, paraplegic, whatever it may be born in the wrong body because they should have been in a non disabled one? They could be a champion athlete inside, but just born in the wrong body.

It makes no sense, it is what it is. It's just a form of plastic surgery to change appearance.

Jeff · 08-08-2006, 07:46 AM

i just puked all over myself thinking about this...

Keri · 08-08-2006, 11:59 AM

Gosh this is a very enlightened thread...

Whatever next...

Gay people. Should they be burnt at the stake?

**Bill5461** · 08-08-2006, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Poppa

i just puked all over myself thinking about this...

I can actually picture this happening

**Cat** · 08-08-2006, 10:55 PM

A friend of a friend is having a sex change operation. She tells the world. She even has a new name picked out and everything. I suppose you can do nothing but be supportive. It's not my business afterall. I'm just happy her family respected her decision, and told her that they love her regardless. It must be a hard thing to go through without their love and support.

People should learn to respect others. Some people on this board are incredibly intolerant and immature.

darko. · 08-08-2006, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cat

A friend of a friend is having a sex change operation. She tells the world. She even has a new name picked out and everything. I suppose you can do nothing but be supportive. It's not my business afterall. I'm just happy her family respected her decision, and told her that they love her regardless. It must be a hard thing to go through without their love and support.

People should learn to respect others. Some people on this board are incredibly intolerant and immature.

support her? shes doing something that is not only stupid, but extremely dangerous as well. why would you support a decision like that?

intolerant? of stupidity? absolutely.

i respect those worthy of respect.

**Cat** · 08-08-2006, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by darko.

support her? shes doing something that is not only stupid, but extremely dangerous as well. why would you support a decision like that?

intolerant? of stupidity? absolutely.

i respect those worthy of respect.

Because she chose it. She wants to do this, so she's doing it. She knows the risk of what she's doing. But if you're going to start talking about what's dangerous, talk about taking the bus. Everything is dangerous nowadays. If you can't support her for what she's doing, then support her because she's doing something for herself that will make her life feel whole.

Everyone is worthy of respect unless they do something that others have to suffer the consequences for.

darko. · 08-08-2006, 11:10 PM

what one chooses to do is what matters, not the act of choosing. and this is a choice that should not be supported.

she already is whole. as for her "life" feeling "whole", cutting up her genitals and shoving hormones into her body will just leave her a freakish glimmer of what she once was, in the physical sense.

you can "be born" in the wrong body. gender is not spiritual.

**Cat** · 08-08-2006, 11:17 PM

I don't think anyone who's never been in this situation themselves should offer anything else than support. And judging from your reaction in this thread, you've never felt the same way.

Keri · 08-09-2006, 05:45 AM

Darko... *sigh*.... you seem very uptight about this subject. Does it make any difference to you what other people do to their bodies?

Cat, I hope it all works out well for your friend. I'm sure it's not a decision she has taken lightly, so good luck to her

By the way, if any of the less enlightened posters have not seen the movie Transamerica I would recommend that you do. It might just make your hearts grow a little bigger...

08-06-2006, 02:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
Wolf The Elder Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 4,138 My Profile	The "Man that is a girl now" How do you men of FH feel about men that change their whole entire gender to the womens? Would you still go out with a person who were to under go that change? Would it still make a man gay if he were to know about the gender change and still date the man/women? Your thoughts?

08-06-2006, 03:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
darko. Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: shlums 'o shaolin Posts: 2,087	nothing productive can come from dating a person who "changes sex"...of course they really dont change their sex. they mutilate their genitals and take hormones. really theyre just freaks. i would have nothing to do with a transgengderd whatever they want to be called it would make the man stupid and pathetic. he wouldnt be having sex with a vagina. he'd be having sex with the insides of a man. its gross just imagining it. Last edited by darko. : 08-06-2006 at 03:43 PM.

08-06-2006, 06:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
Krypton Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 223 My Profile	I think its realy nasty... Why cant they just be happy about their body wich they have bin born with, why change... If they feel they are in the wrong sex's body, they can change their sex to the sex they are closest to. I respect that. But if some one do it cuz they want to, I think the person is nothing more than a big idiot and I woud never respect that person. Last edited by Krypton : 08-06-2006 at 06:46 PM.

08-07-2006, 06:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
edawg99 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 8,395 My Profile	That is the most disgusting thing I ever heard. Why ? Those people just need mental help. Last edited by edawg99 : 08-07-2006 at 06:04 PM.

08-08-2006, 11:10 PM	#18 (permalink)
darko. Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: shlums 'o shaolin Posts: 2,087	what one chooses to do is what matters, not the act of choosing. and this is a choice that should not be supported. she already is whole. as for her "life" feeling "whole", cutting up her genitals and shoving hormones into her body will just leave her a freakish glimmer of what she once was, in the physical sense. you can "be born" in the wrong body. gender is not spiritual. Last edited by darko. : 08-08-2006 at 11:11 PM.

08-06-2006, 03:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
open32 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 7,571 My Profile	I have to agreee with darko on this. Its a bit wierd. I dont think it should be done, I would never go out with a person that did that, whats worse is when someone does it and then doesnt tell there partner. Other then the fact that you may not know who is or who isnt. If two people tell eachother and are ok with it, I could care less about what they do. The problem comes when they dont tell.

08-06-2006, 03:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
darko. Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: shlums 'o shaolin Posts: 2,087	you can always tell. some can pass most of the time but they still have at least 1 quality that makes you wonder, however fleeting the thought may be.

08-07-2006, 09:56 AM	#6 (permalink)
JenniferNoble Lovely Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 4,623 My Profile	exactly, some people are just born in the wrong body. that must suck still i dont think id go out with a guy that was a chick in his early years

08-07-2006, 04:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
solo1 Heartless Bastard Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Ireland Posts: 3,351 My Profile	I don't know. It's never happened to me. I imagine that sort of thing would make itself known before I got so close to someone that it would become an issue.

08-08-2006, 07:46 AM	#12 (permalink)
Jeff The Former Owner - now just a poster! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 3,169 My Profile	i just puked all over myself thinking about this...

08-08-2006, 11:59 AM	#13 (permalink)
Keri Kiss My Pom Poms Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: UK Posts: 4,018 My Profile	Gosh this is a very enlightened thread... Whatever next... Gay people. Should they be burnt at the stake?

08-08-2006, 10:55 PM	#15 (permalink)
Cat Bloomin' crazy Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 1,963 My Profile	A friend of a friend is having a sex change operation. She tells the world. She even has a new name picked out and everything. I suppose you can do nothing but be supportive. It's not my business afterall. I'm just happy her family respected her decision, and told her that they love her regardless. It must be a hard thing to go through without their love and support. People should learn to respect others. Some people on this board are incredibly intolerant and immature.

08-08-2006, 11:17 PM	#19 (permalink)
Cat Bloomin' crazy Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 1,963 My Profile	I don't think anyone who's never been in this situation themselves should offer anything else than support. And judging from your reaction in this thread, you've never felt the same way.

08-09-2006, 05:45 AM	#20 (permalink)
Keri Kiss My Pom Poms Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: UK Posts: 4,018 My Profile	Darko... sigh.... you seem very uptight about this subject. Does it make any difference to you what other people do to their bodies? Cat, I hope it all works out well for your friend. I'm sure it's not a decision she has taken lightly, so good luck to her By the way, if any of the less enlightened posters have not seen the movie Transamerica I would recommend that you do. It might just make your hearts grow a little bigger...

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