Hemingway

**MissyO** · 11-03-2007, 11:42 AM

Anyone else here a fan? And do you like him for his work, or as a myth. D'ya know, I love Hem's work, but I think in all honesty it mostly is the myth that attracts me most to him.

Moshe.. · 11-03-2007, 01:00 PM

Old man and sea I adore with all my heart! BUt all the rest of his stuff is lamentable trash about bulls and balls and beer (he sounds like a very dull witted boring old american). When we're on holiday we always end in hotels with "HEmingway stayed here" plaques and the taps never work.

By the way so flattered you made this forum for me. I'll definitely post later - have to go out in exactly three minutes.

**Ophelia** · 11-03-2007, 03:43 PM

I don't care for him. Too masculine in style.

darko. · 11-03-2007, 05:29 PM

too masculine what are you talking about?

i liked a farewell to arms. have no reasons for liking or disliking any books. and i hate analyzing fiction cause I dont give a ****.

Captain Beefheart · 11-03-2007, 06:02 PM

First year of college my creative writing teacher was always trying to make us write like Hemingway. He was very close to being overthrown in the classroom by the end of the semester. Though I can see the wisdom in going that route, get the bulls!hit out of young writers schtick, but you can go a little overboard.

To me (and even moreso as I get older), great writing has become about who could imply an emotion the most all the while saying the least.

There is so much useless window dressing on every aspect of art, it's hard to decipher who really likes the actual work being presented underneath all of the fanfare. If the artist is willing to play the game/live the lie, it's obvious where there heart is.

In a day and age of overinformation, its refreshing to get something solid; trimmed of all fat, sugar extracted.

Hemingway is a rock. He refuses to spice it up. He makes you taste the natural flavor. The meal is not the sauce. It's the meat.

**MissyO** · 11-04-2007, 12:15 AM

^ True. But I still think that the myth contributes greatly. Somewhere in the back of your brain you're thinking of all of the stories of Hem the Man whilst reading that book there.

Darko, marry me. We'll go to Italy and stay in a hotel and we'll get room service and the wine will be ice cold and will make your teeth start when it hits them before it dances across your tongue etc, etc.

**Val** · 11-04-2007, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Moshe..

Old man and sea.

Man ... I loved this!

The sailor Pop... hehehe!!!

Was the first book in my english classes here. Of course, the book was all in english and I got a 10 in the final exam.
Thank you Moshe.

**Ophelia** · 11-04-2007, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MissyO

Darko, marry me. We'll go to Italy and stay in a hotel and we'll get room service and the wine will be ice cold and will make your teeth start when it hits them before it dances across your tongue etc, etc.

I want an invite to this wedding for sure.

**MissyO** · 11-04-2007, 09:06 AM

^ Then read A Farewell to Arms, woman! You'll like it..........

**Ophelia** · 11-04-2007, 09:14 AM

I'll check it out - I didn't much like The Sun Also Rises and never went back fro more Hemingway after that.

**MissyO** · 11-04-2007, 09:29 AM

A Farewell to Arms is Hem lite. It struck me as quite feminine. But feminine with shlt being blown up. And war.

Reviews of A Farewell to Arms on Amazon

**Ophelia** · 11-04-2007, 09:37 AM

I will try it - I trust your book judgement.

**MissyO** · 11-04-2007, 09:43 AM

Thank you. I think you'll enjoy it. I've read it about 5 times, and still love it to pieces.

**MissyO** · 11-09-2007, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ophelia

I did get Farewell to Arms.

How are you enjoying it, my baby?

**Jocasta** · 11-10-2007, 05:43 AM

Never read any, should I and what?
I like the masculine style.

**MissyO** · 11-10-2007, 05:50 AM

Hmm.... "The Old Man and the Sea" is his most praised... "For Whom the Bell Tolls" is a fabulous quasi-love story set amidst the Spanish Civil War (I think you'd like this one, Jo).... "A Farewell to Arms" is the lightest and easiest to read, it's a love story set in Italy amidst World War 1..... "Fiesta: The Sun Also Rises" was his first, the one a lot of people start with, very easy to read, Spain in the early 30's if I remember rightly, just about him and his idiot mates getting off their guts a lot.

**Jocasta** · 11-10-2007, 06:42 AM

Thanks Missy, I'll check him out.

**MissyO** · 11-10-2007, 06:54 AM

Anytime, angelcakes. I think you'll enjoy his work.

**Ophelia** · 11-10-2007, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MissyO

just about him and his idiot mates getting off their guts a lot.

HA! Thats why I remembered masculine.

A Farewell to Arms is amazing so far and an easy read. Halfway done.

**Ophelia** · 11-10-2007, 08:17 PM

I was wrong. I was wrong about everything and I'm glad of it. Oh - I will die before I have had a chance to read even a portion of all the wonderful books on the planet - what a beautiful thing that is.

11-03-2007, 11:42 AM	#1 (permalink)
MissyO Perennially Disgruntled Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 4,106 My Profile	Hemingway Anyone else here a fan? And do you like him for his work, or as a myth. D'ya know, I love Hem's work, but I think in all honesty it mostly is the myth that attracts me most to him.

11-03-2007, 06:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
Captain Beefheart Mu nótahu Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In a West End town, a dead end world Posts: 3,672 My Profile	First year of college my creative writing teacher was always trying to make us write like Hemingway. He was very close to being overthrown in the classroom by the end of the semester. Though I can see the wisdom in going that route, get the bulls!hit out of young writers schtick, but you can go a little overboard. To me (and even moreso as I get older), great writing has become about who could imply an emotion the most all the while saying the least. There is so much useless window dressing on every aspect of art, it's hard to decipher who really likes the actual work being presented underneath all of the fanfare. If the artist is willing to play the game/live the lie, it's obvious where there heart is. In a day and age of overinformation, its refreshing to get something solid; trimmed of all fat, sugar extracted. Hemingway is a rock. He refuses to spice it up. He makes you taste the natural flavor. The meal is not the sauce. It's the meat. Last edited by Captain Beefheart : 11-03-2007 at 06:05 PM.

11-04-2007, 09:29 AM	#11 (permalink)
MissyO Perennially Disgruntled Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 4,106 My Profile	A Farewell to Arms is Hem lite. It struck me as quite feminine. But feminine with shlt being blown up. And war. Reviews of A Farewell to Arms on Amazon Last edited by MissyO : 11-04-2007 at 09:34 AM.

11-03-2007, 01:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
Moshe.. il dolce far niente Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: hampstead Posts: 971 My Profile	Old man and sea I adore with all my heart! BUt all the rest of his stuff is lamentable trash about bulls and balls and beer (he sounds like a very dull witted boring old american). When we're on holiday we always end in hotels with "HEmingway stayed here" plaques and the taps never work. By the way so flattered you made this forum for me. I'll definitely post later - have to go out in exactly three minutes.

11-03-2007, 03:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ophelia JOHO Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Joshtopia Posts: 7,011 My Profile	I don't care for him. Too masculine in style.

11-03-2007, 05:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
darko. Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: shlums 'o shaolin Posts: 2,087	too masculine what are you talking about? i liked a farewell to arms. have no reasons for liking or disliking any books. and i hate analyzing fiction cause I dont give a ****.

11-04-2007, 12:15 AM	#6 (permalink)
MissyO Perennially Disgruntled Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 4,106 My Profile	^ True. But I still think that the myth contributes greatly. Somewhere in the back of your brain you're thinking of all of the stories of Hem the Man whilst reading that book there. Darko, marry me. We'll go to Italy and stay in a hotel and we'll get room service and the wine will be ice cold and will make your teeth start when it hits them before it dances across your tongue etc, etc.

11-04-2007, 09:06 AM	#9 (permalink)
MissyO Perennially Disgruntled Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 4,106 My Profile	^ Then read A Farewell to Arms, woman! You'll like it..........

11-04-2007, 09:14 AM	#10 (permalink)
Ophelia JOHO Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Joshtopia Posts: 7,011 My Profile	I'll check it out - I didn't much like The Sun Also Rises and never went back fro more Hemingway after that.

11-04-2007, 09:37 AM	#12 (permalink)
Ophelia JOHO Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Joshtopia Posts: 7,011 My Profile	I will try it - I trust your book judgement.

11-04-2007, 09:43 AM	#13 (permalink)
MissyO Perennially Disgruntled Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 4,106 My Profile	Thank you. I think you'll enjoy it. I've read it about 5 times, and still love it to pieces.

11-10-2007, 05:43 AM	#15 (permalink)
Jocasta Joshtopian Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Shaftesbury Avenue Posts: 17,791 My Profile	Never read any, should I and what? I like the masculine style.

11-10-2007, 05:50 AM	#16 (permalink)
MissyO Perennially Disgruntled Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 4,106 My Profile	Hmm.... "The Old Man and the Sea" is his most praised... "For Whom the Bell Tolls" is a fabulous quasi-love story set amidst the Spanish Civil War (I think you'd like this one, Jo).... "A Farewell to Arms" is the lightest and easiest to read, it's a love story set in Italy amidst World War 1..... "Fiesta: The Sun Also Rises" was his first, the one a lot of people start with, very easy to read, Spain in the early 30's if I remember rightly, just about him and his idiot mates getting off their guts a lot.

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11-10-2007, 06:42 AM	#17 (permalink)
Jocasta Joshtopian Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Shaftesbury Avenue Posts: 17,791 My Profile	Thanks Missy, I'll check him out.

11-10-2007, 06:54 AM	#18 (permalink)
MissyO Perennially Disgruntled Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 4,106 My Profile	Anytime, angelcakes. I think you'll enjoy his work.

11-10-2007, 08:17 PM	#20 (permalink)
Ophelia JOHO Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Joshtopia Posts: 7,011 My Profile	I was wrong. I was wrong about everything and I'm glad of it. Oh - I will die before I have had a chance to read even a portion of all the wonderful books on the planet - what a beautiful thing that is.