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Old 09-19-2006, 01:38 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Oh dear. You had it coming, I'm actually replying to this.

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Another thing is every time you hear of a woman raping a boy, the boy is never physically forced, although it is statutory rape, I have never heard a case where the boy wasnt willing. This doesnt take the fault of the woman but it does mitigate things in the eyes of a jury.
And if a child, girl or boy, is forced, than of course the offender must face a severe penalty.

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In the case of male Pedophiles, most of them use force, beat, tie down and badly hurt the girl creating a life long traumatic experience.
No. What you described sounds more like the type of person who wants to live out power over someone weaker - not someone who loves children a little too much and has a sexual desire towards them (that is what pedophiles are).

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Plus the me who are pedophiles are slimey perverts that should be hung!
Not at all.
PJYfan: A pedophile is someone, who is attracted to (preadolescent) children. This includes sexual attraction, but this doesn't have to be a primary desire. Not more and not less. The word doesn't even imply that the person acts on that desire.

The group of people who rape children (use threats or even force, create a feeling of helplessness in the victim) and the group of the pedophiles are not identical. I know some pedophiles cannot control their sexual desire, respectively think they don't harm children, if they persuade them to sexual acts. Sadly, this can be deceptive - but it's not in all cases.

I really don't condone sex with children, but to me it's different, if someone rapes* a child, if someone persuades one to sexual acts or if someone if merely attracted to them. The first person should be punished hard. The second person should also face penalties, but not as high as the first person. The third person must not be persecuted at all. I don't see why so few people agree on that.
But back to case number two: the adult who seduces a child. It's very difficult, to find the right sentence for that. This behavior can massively damage the victims psyche. The child can feel abused, can feel dirty, ... This all can happen, but it doesn't have to. Of course the offender can not exclude that there will be damage, so he (or she - although that's more seldom) should not have committed the deed beforehand. But what if it already happened and the child happened to be lucky to not suffer from psychological problems because of it. If the guy gets caught does really everything have to be done to convince the child, that he or she is a victim, that it's bad what have happened. The child probably felt like the relationship to the adult was a friendship and probably vice versa. Do psychologists have to create a feeling of guilt in the child? Even, if there's no direct accusation towards the child, the child feels that questions are repeated until he or she gives the right answers, although he or she knows something bad will happen to his or her adult friend because of it.

The main problem isn't the pedophile, but the way the victim is treated during that - until it really feels like a victim.

Maybe the offender shouldn't be punished as hard in the cases, where the victim doesn't feel so bad about it. After all drunk drivers who don't kill people while drunk driving don't get punished the same, as the ones that do so. And even more so - in the cases where no one is killed, the persecution doesn't create a victim by killing someone, only that the drunk driver could be punished harder. "If you hadn't driven under the influence of alcohol, we wouldn't have needed to kill a person to make you see the consequences, so it's your fault, now go to jail for it" - sounds illogical, but "we did our best to make the child feel bad and create that feeling of guilt and being abused, so that we can put you in jail for it" is common practice when it comes to pedophiles who sought sexual contact to children. Again, they shouldn't have done so in first place, but if it already happened, I don't see why it has to be made even worse for the victim, if the child was one of the lucky cases, who didn't suffer from psychological wounds from the act alone.

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Yeah but when do you hear of a woman slitting a boy's penis to make it fit into her
I've read about the cruelties you're referring to and totally understand your hatred against the people who committed them. Please just don't mix up the people who do things like the one's you meant with the people who just are too much attracted to children.

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